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Pylontech RT12100G31 Installation and Integration with Victron CCGX

I have recently installed 8 x Pylontech RT12100G31 as a single 800ah 12v battery bank. The batteries are working (charging and discharging) and are interlinked for balancing. They show up correctly as a single bank in the Pylontech bluetooth app.

However, I have not been able to get the batteries to communicate with the CCGX. The CCGX is on the latest firmware (v2.92) and I have have a victron terminator in the other VE.Can port.

There is very limited information about these batteries online and unfortunately the instruction manual is very limited. I have used the following links for reference:

https://www.victronenergy.com/live/battery_compatibility:can-bus_bms-cable

https://www.victronenergy.com/live/battery_compatibility:pylontech_phantom

I have wired the comms cable using the type B Pinout in the first link above as this matches the batteries instruction manual as below. I have tested the wires in the cables pin to pin to confirm continuity and correct pin matching. This has proven correct ... multiple times. I have also removed the VE-Can terminator and confirmed it has continuity and resistance of 120 ohms between Pins 7 & 8.

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The table above shows Pin 7/8 being for RS485A /B. I have not wired this as it does not seem to map to any wire in the Victron VE CAN-bus RJ45 terminator and I know others with working integration between the same pylontech batteries and a Cerbo without this wired.

The documentation suggests that once correctly connected, configuration will occur automatically, but I have also tried manually turning on DVCC and configuring the VE CAN-Bus profile. I have tried all available profiles without success although I believe the correct one should be Can-bus BMS (500kbit/s).

Has anyone succesfully connected these batteries to a CCGX and can advise on what I could have wrong? Alternatively, perhaps someone with experience in connecting a BMS to CCGX can help?

daveh-1 asked
Mark commented ·

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Multiplus Inverter/Charger + Remote Control Panel + CCGX

I have a MultiPlus 12/3000 Inverter Charger that I would like to control with a remote control panel. This would be connected via a VE.Bus connection. I'd also like to monitor the Inverter/charger with my CCGX display.

Can both the remote panel and the CCGX be connected at the same time and not cause conflicts? I prefer to simply turn the inverter/charger on/off with the remote panel's toggle, rather than search through the CCGX screens.

Secondly, the remote control is located between the inverter/charger and the CCGX. Can I run a cable from the inverter/charger, to the remote control, and then with a RJ-45 splitter run a second cable to the CCGX?

mresman asked
Mike Dorsett answered ·

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Victron Multi RS Solar 48/6000 connect to VRM (CCGX or RPi)

Hi everyone,


Can someone give a bit more clarity on how to bring the Multi RS in VRM?

The manual is... limited in this regards.


I have a CCGX (on my existing quattro installation) and just bought a RaspberryPi on which I installed VenusOS and I also purchased a MK3 adapter.

From what I can tell, only VECan is available on the Multi RS, but when I connect to CCGX it won't show anything. Do i need the little RJ45 end plugs (which didn't came with any device...) ?


What would I need to connect it to RPi?


Thanks

Romeo

iromeo asked
georg-cz answered ·

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Orion-Tr Smart, VE.Direct and integration with GX devices?

Hey there, as I commented on the blog post,

"I'm curious if future versions will have VE.Direct or some sort of integration like that with GX devices? Currently, it seems that the MPPT and MultiPlus are able to coordinate their total charge rate with external BMS via the GX devices. But it seems that the Orion-Tr does not participate in this?"

I'm wondering if there's a way to integrate the Orion-Tr Smart chargers with the CCGX. In particular, as far as I understand, GX devices can coordinate with external BMS via CANBus to determine the charging parameters of a battery. It seems that the Victron MPPT and Victron MultiPlus can respect these limits via VE.Direct and VE.Bus respectively, which is great and a big reason why I bought this BMS and the suite of Victron product.

Now I'm considering purchasing Orion-Tr Smart chargers, however I noticed that they don't have any VE.Direct connectivity, or any other VE connectivity aside from the Bluetooth one. Is something like VE.Direct, VE.Bus or VE.Can planned? Will Orion-Tr Smart chargers integrate with GX devices?

aybabtme asked
hiddentty answered ·

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COLOR CONTROL GX plus de visualisation des chargeurs PV (MPPT 256 et 258)

Bonjour,

N'ayant pas eu de réponse qui ai réglé mon souci je réitère celle ci.

J’ai depuis le 30 avril 2023 sur le Color Control GX l’absence de visualisation de mes deux MPPT et donc plus les valeurs instantanées visibles de tension, de puissance et d’intensité. Je précise que je visualise ce Color Control à distance. Je ne comprends pas comment faire pour retrouver cette visualisation MERCI de votre aide !

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djeff-djeffker asked
djeff-djeffker answered ·

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CCGX frozen on logo screen

This CCGX is running fw 2.92 and connected to a quattro. Everything has been working perfect for years, nothing changed when suddenly the CCGX only displayed the logo screen. I suspect it did a reboot for some reason but is stuck in the sequence.

I tried a power cycle, 2- button reboot, 3-button reboot with SD card and everything disconnected.

Anything else I can try?

pekie asked
kevgermany answered ·

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Is there any way to get the HQ number of my CCGX remotely?

CCGX running v2.91

"Serial number" on VRM device list is blank. VRM portal ID is visible.

I can't see HQ number on VictronConnect - just the VRM portal ID again.

Can't find it in Remote Console either if it's there.


Is there any way to get the HQ number of my CCGX remotely?

snoobler asked
snoobler answered ·

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Ruuvi tag sensor as Battery Temperature alarm

Now it is possible, I would like to set a Ruuvi tag temp sensor as alarm for my battery temperature.

As I have 2 x 230Ah lead acid batterys (24V), in 1 metal closed box, should I do:

  • 2 sensors? 1 sensor on the top of each battery? or
  • 1 Sensor at the centre of inside of the metal lid?

Thanks for your advise!

harold asked
kurtinge answered ·

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CCGX not displaying AC Loads

We have an a Quattro 5000 inverter/charger, battle born batteries and 1260 solar array. We don't see the AC input, inverter switch is showing off when it's on and no AC Loads on our CCGX display.

This is a photo below our system connected to shore power.


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I have rebooted, unwired, rewired system many times with no luck.

CCGX did work at on time.


tinyarcher asked
Herve RV Nizard answered ·

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SOC not shown on CCGX.

Hi.

We have a hybrid system with 6pcs Quattros on a 3-phase parallell system. We have MG Lithium-Ion LFP Batteries and a MG Master LV BMS. The Quattros are Connected to a CCGX on VE.Bus and the BMS on the VE. Can. Problem here is that I dont get the SOC from the BMS/Batteries displayed on CC GX.

Is there something I do wrong here?

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orjolsen asked
Gerardo answered ·

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SMA on AC-Out disappeared

Hello!

I have a 3 phase ESS system with a ColorControlGX, 3x Multiplus 2, Fronius on AC-IN and a SMA Tripower Inverter on AC-OUT.

Everything was working fine but a few days ago, the SMA on AC-OUT disappered from the CCGX and VRM portal. I haven't changed anything.

The device entry is still shown in the "inverters" menu but not in the "detected ip addresses" menu of the CCGX.

I checked the following:

  • TCP Server is enabled
  • UDP Server is enabled
  • modbus ID of the SMA is 126 (3+123)
  • ping is successful
  • telnet to port 502 is successful
  • inverter data is shown in sunny explorer and in a logging application with UDP communication
  • restarted the whole system
  • updated to the most recent CCGX FW
  • manually added the ip in the CCGX
  • did several inverter scans in the CCGX
  • changed all relevant settings in the inverter and ESS menu


Is there anything else I could try?


Thank you!

Best regards

Thomas

tef asked
cioringa answered ·

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MPPT disappearing from Colour controller

My color controller is not showing my MPPT

When I reboot my Color controller, it connects to BlueSolar Charge MPPT, then it disconnects a number of seconds. I have tried different VE direct cables.

BlueSolar Charger MPPT 100/50 rev2

Colour Controler firmware is version V2.08

In the first photo, It shows PV Charger

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Then it disappears

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Any help would be greatly appreciated


brian-sheehan asked
brian-sheehan answered ·

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COLOR CONTROL GX plus de visualisation des chargeurs PV (MPPT 256 et 258)

Bonjour, J’ai depuis le 30 avril 2023 sur le Color Control GX l’absence de visualisation de mes deux MPPT et donc plus les valeurs instantanées visibles de tension, de puissance et d’intensité. Je précise que je visualise ce Color Control à distance. Je ne comprends pas comment faire pour retrouver cette visualisation MERCI de votre aide !

djeff-djeffker asked
djeff-djeffker answered ·

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MPPTs no longer connected to CCGX

I have 2 MPPT 250/100 solar chargers that have been connected to our CCGX for 2 years. Yesterday, they suddenly were "unconnected." They're still working and charging batteries and I can connect to them via VictronConnect over Bluetooth. Both MPPTs were "last seen" at the same time which implies a common cause.

I've tried unplugging and re-plugging the VE Direct cables on the CCGX and the MPPTs but didn't help.

I don't have any way to get a new cable (if that's the issue) for a couple months. Thought I should check here to see if anyone has any other ideas?

calypsosailing asked
djeff-djeffker answered ·

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CCGX doesnt detect all BYD Battery modules

Hello everyone

I recently upgraded a perfect running system with 1-phase multiplus and 1 BYD Box Pro 4x 2.5kWh battery,

with a second BYD Box Pro with 4x 2.5kw battery.

I have addressed and connected all the batteries correctly.


However, it works when I connect the BMU to CCGX, the limit charge and discharge current is 140A, it only seems to recognize a maximum of 4 batteries)

No matter how I combine the batteries, new and/or old. (of course always correctly addressed)

Only 4 are recognized. The remaining 4 batteries showing a scrolling LED light. (dip switches are ok configured, also COM cables ok)
BMU from first BYD box mit BMU from second BYD Box changed = same effect


Thanks Michael

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