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Cant change Settings for COS phi on QUATTRO 15K at Grid-Code VDE-AR-N 4105:2011-08

Dear Community,

- i have a 3-Phase Quattro 15K with ESS-Setup. (Firmware 497)
- Living in germany required me to setup a external NS-Protection by using Ziehl UFR1001E to comply with VDE-AR-N 4105:2011-08 or VDE-AR-N 4105: 2018-11

- As it is required by my local Network, i need to comply to some settings like for COSϕ, as it is described in DIN VDE V 0124-100 (VDE V 0124-100):2020-06.

- I know the QUATTRO 15K is certified to comply with ...
--> VDE-AR-N 4105: 2018-11...
...based on Test defined in ...
--> DIN VDE V 0124-100 (VDE V 0124-100): 2020-06. “Network integration of power generation systems – Low voltage"...
... by ...
--> Certificate-ESS-VDE-AR-N-4105-2018-11-Quattro-48-8000-110,-48-10000-140,-48-15000-200.pdf

Here comes the Problem:
- VE Configure 3 just offers me Grid-Code VDE-AR-N 4105:2011-08 and within this Grid-Code i also can´t make any changes, e.g. to COSϕ

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How can i either change settings on values like COSϕ (as it is for example possible in other Grid Code... (Here TOR Erzeuger Austria..)

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...or how can i get to select Grid-Code...

--> VDE-AR-N 4105: 2018-11 (with external NS-Protection) ... like i have seen it in Screenshots in in a different Post....
Screenshot with QUATTRO having VDE-AR-N 4105: 2018-11

.. where i assume i will automatically comply to the right settings defined by my local network provicer (like COSϕ .. settings)


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Hi all.

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Regards,

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@Botnic How is yours going?

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anacrhy2007 edited ·

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Hi all.


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Does the Victron system perform full UPS function?

I am new to this and my system was only commissioned at my holiday house a few weeks ago. My setup currently runs on solar all day (unless the weather is bad) and battery all night (unless the battery drops below 40%) other than 300 watts per hour of grid power. If the gird fails, my circuits which are designated as critical loads will run from the battery and 40% of the battery will give them around 8 hours. It appears to me (based on a few weeks of monitoring) that the system will be on “grid only“ power for about 10% of the time (presumably more in winter) and probably increasing to about 60% of the time when we are actually using the holiday home.

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/Joel

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Hi


I have a three phase system with Quattro 48|5000's. At the moment its fed by a Fronius Symo 6 on AC-1-out, deliverying 6kVA on full power. I am planning to add about 10kVA solar power on DC side with a MPPT RS450/200. And potentially also a Hoymiles HMS-2000 on, probably, L1 (again AC-1-out).


My queustion is about the limits of the system.
Assume there is full power sun and we get 8kVA from AC-coupled solar (which should be fine with 1:1 rule, 8 < 15). What happens if the DC side power its full 10kVA towards the Quattros? That would mean 10kVA from DC and 8kVA from AC, which is well above the systems 15kVA? Would the GX tell the DC MPPT to go down, preveting the system from overload? Or how are such scenarios working?


Thanks in advance :)

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