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V. E Bus Dongle im Ve. BUS möglich?

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Ich würde gerne einen v. E Bus BT dongle, in mein bestehendes System integrieren, um mein multiplus am Handy ablesen zu können. Ich habe aber den Cerbo Gx und die smart Batterie bereits über das V. E Bus installiert. Kann ich den trotzdem mit einbinden? Da ich ja theoretisch kein Steckplatz mehr frei habe?

razer05 asked
markus commented ·

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Multiplus settings with V.E bus smart dongle

Hi,

When looking at Inverter/Charges (V.E Bus) under the Demo Library in the VictronConnect app it is shown that a number of settings can be changed. The tabs showing when hitting the cog is General, Grid, Inverter, Charger and Ac input control.

However when connecting to my Multiplus II via a V.E bus smart dongle the only setting that can be changed under the cog is the limit for for input current.

Is there a limitation in the smart dongle? If so how can I change other settings that just the input current limit on my Multiplus without connecting it to a computer?


thanks ,

Joachim

joachima asked
joachima commented ·

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VE.bus smart dongle for Multiplus

I need to adjust the setting of my Multiplus and I know it was not possible in the past to do this with the dongle. Is this still the case or is it possible now? If not are there plans to make it possible in the near future so I don't have to spent my money on both the MK3 usb and the Dongle?

heubie asked
jeroend edited ·

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Victron Energy Digital Multi Control And/or VE.Bus Smart Dongle with Mulitplus 12/2000/80?

I’m wondering if the digital control is required in addition to the smart dongle? I’ve read that the smart dongle is able to also control the Amps via Bluetooth the same as the controller would as well as on/off/charger only etc. My question is if I have the dongle, do I also need the digital controller?

chewythevan asked
jeroend answered ·

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What does the CerboGX add if I have Smart Dongle, Smart Shunt, Smart Solar MPPT and Multiplus?

Hello,

I'm trying to sort out if I should add a Cerbo GX. If I don't plan to use a GX touch in the system what would I be missing if have a VE.Bus Smart Dongle, a Smart Shunt 500A, a pair of Smart Solar MPPT and a Multiplus Inverter? I am accessing everything via Victron Connect over Bluetooth and use the MK3 for configuration which is disconnected once the system has been commissioned.

Would there be a better solution for monitoring these components? I'm not sure I would hook the system up to the internet for portal access except for remote support.

Thanks so much for any guidance on the best way forward.

--ken


Ken Hughes asked
Ken Hughes commented ·

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SmartShunt to MPPT via VE.Smart Networking and Raspberry Pi

Hello,


We recently installed a SmartShunt 500A to our existing SmartSolar MPPT 100/50 which is connected to a Raspberry Pi running the VRM Pi Operating System.

The MPPT to Pi broadcasting to the Online VRM is working great.

But when we try to link the newly installed SmartShunt to a VE.Smart Networking network created on the MPPT, the SmartShunt can see the VE network, we can join it (it say it is joined), but the SmartShunt (or any devices added/linked via the VE.Smart Networking) is not appearing in the list of devices.

Both the MPPT and the SmartShunt have the latest Firmware version and so does the VRM Pi.

In the list bellow, I can see the Battery Monitor (SmartShunt) because we tried to connect the VE USB cable to it directly. But then we can see the shunt, but not the MPPT, even if we create a VE.Smart Networking network on the Shunt and join the MPPT to the Shunt network.


LOCALY, BOTH the MPPT and the SmartShunt are collecting data.

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As you can see, the MPPT is showing just fine in the Console DEVICE LIST screen, but the SmartShunt 500A is "Not Connected".

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itsdouet asked
itsdouet answered ·

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I have the Multiplus, VE.Bus Smart Dongle, and Digital Multi Control, where do I get the RJ45 cable that goes into the smart dongle?

I'm finishing up my build with Victron Orion-Tr, Charge controller, Multiplus Inverter, Digital Multi Control GX, 2x 100ah Battleborns, Lynx Distributor, and VE.Bus Smart Dongle. Everything is plugged in, except the smart dongle. When I watch videos of installation, they always have an RJ45 plugged into the back of the smart dongle, but mine didn't come with one. Did I lose a cable or something?


I plugged the temperature sensor in the B+ and B- on the front of the dongle, but the back has a space for the RJ45 which I don't have. I'm using one for my BMV-712 and my DMC GX but I don't have any others to use for the dongle.

noah-garvin asked
Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) answered ·

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VE Bus smart Dongle doesnt shows up

I connect (VE bus smart dongle) to battery, then only the blue light blinking. OK. Then I paired via bluetooth with my phone and the blue light stays on and what ever i did does not appear in (victron connect app). Not only that but doesnt appear in victron connect app in pc using MK3-USB ofc, even force detection. I also tryed VEconfing. Nothing.

nekktt asked
nekktt answered ·

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VE.Bus BMS and MultiPlus / Cerbo combination

I have wanted to be able to control the Multiplus via the Cerbo, but the VE.Bus BMS and VE.Bus BMS Assistant on the Multiplus block the Cerbo from changing the invert state between On / Off / Invert Only / Charge Only.

Having done some testing I have reverted to the 2-Wire BMS assistant on the Multiplus and wired the VE.Bus BMS Charge Disconnect to the Aux 1 port and Pre-Alarm to Aux 2, using an Inverting remote on-off cable. I am now able to change the status of the Multiplus from within the Cerbo Screens. The Cerbo correctly shows the VE.Bus BMS status through the relevant MultiPlus screen. Both disconnected at the moment.

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I also had a VE.Bus Smart Dongle and found I could modify the status of the Multiplus via my phone as well. When status changed the Cerbo reflected that changed status. So I have a system working as I would like, but not using any functionality of the VE.Bus. I guess I could have achieved the same thing using the smallBMS with pre-alarm.


What I was wondering is if anyone can advise what functionality I might have lost by disconnecting the VE.Bus BMS from the VE.Bus?

I have noticed during my testing today that there is no Alarm or Error that is logged when the VE.Bus BMS signals load or charge disconnect, simulated by disconnecting the signal. The Cerbo clearly isn't triggering on the change of the Multiplus VE.Bus BMS status. I am not sure if it ever did alarm/alert when the VE.Bus BMS was connected via the VE.Bus port to know if I lost functionality. I do know a few weeks back I had a VE.Bus BMS Charge disconnect event and never saw anything on the Cerbo.


Hope people find this useful and it would be good to understand what functionality has been lost by taking this approach and not have the VE.Bus BMS communicating on the bus.

bathnm asked
bathnm commented ·

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Temp Sensor on MultiPlus and VEBus Smart Dongle

If one was to connect a temperature probe to the VE.Bus Smart Dongle to measure battery temperature and also to a MultiPlus to measure the temperature of the cupboard it is in, will the Cerbo GX pull two temperature values from the VE.Bus or just one?

bathnm asked
Ingo answered ·

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VE.Bus smart dongle - Victron Phoenix multi 24/3000 70

Est ce que c’est possible de connecté le VE.bus smart dongle avec le Victron Phoenix multi 24/3000 70

Sinon avec quoi je peut connecter avec un mobile app. ?


Brian Kelleher asked
Matthias Lange - DE commented ·

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VE-Bus Smart Dongle in Smart Network

I am setting up my MultiPlus C12 to be monitored via Victron Connect on my iPhone via the VE.Bus Smart dongle. Will also have BMV712 and BlueSmart MPPT 100/50. The latter two I will have talking in a Smart Network as per std guidelines. Somewhere in Victron chatI noted that the VE-Bus Smart Dongle could also be included in this Smart Network.

Is this true? Does it mean you can have a Smart Network using the VE.bus dongle and a BlueSmart MPPT and the latter will use the voltage & temp info. Would the three Smart products in the network result in conflicts perhaps?


John Schmidt asked
Gregory Cavanagh answered ·

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Temperature Sensors for CCGX

How can I connect temperature sensors to my Color Control GX? These are not compatible with CCGX... https://www.victronenergy.com/live/temperature_sensors

Buying an VE.Bus Smart Dongle for each temperature sensor isn't reasonable... or? anyone found an good solution for this?


tomas-sailing asked
mike-g answered ·

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VE.Bus Smart Bluetooth Temperature overrides Venus GX Temperature

Yesterday I added the VE.Bus Smart Bluetooth dongle to my Quattro and noticed that the temperature from the dongle overrides the already connected Venus GX with Temperature probe.

My setup is Quattro/Venus and BMV. I have two temperature sensors, one connected to the Quattro and one to the Venus (don't ask).

Anyway, when I plug in the VE.Bus Smart dongle it seems to override all others but the documentation doesn't state in so many words that it will or won't do that, it only talks about voltage sensing.

Can anyone explain how I can ignore the Smart Dongle's temperature sensing as the device is NOT attached to a battery case?

Edit: The following is NOT happening in this case.

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Ingo asked
Ingo commented ·

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Multiplus not receiving Volt and Temp data from VE.Bus smart dongle

Its a new setup still in testing phase on the benchtop. Very simple.

1x 12/1600/70 Multiplus (new style compact)

1x VE.Bus Smart dongle

1x VE.Bus MK3 USB interface

some old AGM batteries which still work, barely.

Initially everything worked perfectly - when signing into victron connect on my laptop it was clear that the multiplus received the temperature and on battery voltage as measured by the Smart Dongle. Absorption charging was getting up to 14.6V as expected for my unheated office. When the MK3-USB is disconnected using the Smart Dongle confirms a temp of 15 degrees celcius and normal operation of the multi. I can switch the multi on and off using bluetooth as expected.

Then today the Smart Dongle stopped talking to the Multiplus! There's been a couple of brief moments where it's worked, but mostly not. Smart dongle still working otherwise - smartphone bluetooth page shows normal functioning, blue light flashing as before, but none of its data is getting to the multiplus. Ethernet cables have been swapped repeatedly to no avail. To be clear I'm not using the multi's own temperature sensor at all. Thus on its own the multi has no clue what battery temps or voltages are and charging reflects this - battery absorbs at about 14.3V at high current which increases to 14.4V at low currents.

I've tried resetting settings on the multi, the only assistant I had was a simple one to disable the fan if I shorted the multi's temperature inputs, removing that made no difference.

Jesse asked
Jesse answered ·

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Can the VE Bus Smart Dongle replace a BMV for a Small installation?

I have a Multiplus 24/3000 and a Lithium battery, and would like to add basic battery monitoring (Voltage, Ah remaining, SOC) and display this in the Victron Connect app.

This is in a camper van, so there will be house DC loads outside of the Multiplus.

Will the VE Bus Smart Dongle work for this (and thus not requiring a BMV for my small setup) ??

johanneshovda asked
Vance Mitchell commented ·

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VE.Bus BMS and VE.Bus Smart dongle - Can they work together ?

Replace the Digital Control Panel with a VE.Bus Smart dongle.

Figure 1 of the Victron PDF . System Layout below

https://www.victronenergy.com.au/upload/documents/Datasheet-VE-Bus-BMS-EN.pdf

Will this work ?

Any help would be great.

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Stephen Phillips asked
Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) answered ·

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Do I need more than one Smart Dongle

I have two Multiplus 12/3000 inverters do I need a Smart Dongle for each inverter or do I daisy chain the VE Bus from one inverter to the second. Also Can I update firmware via it or do I need the USB MK3 in addition

dvcpro50 asked
Matthias Lange - DE edited ·

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Can the Multiplus Temperature Sensor be attached to the VE.Bus Smart Dongle

I am wondering if I need to purchase a different temperature sensor to attach to the smart dongle or can I use the one that came supplied with my Mutliplus 3000?


Yes, I know you don't have to attach a temp sensor to the smart dongle, but I want accurate temperature of the batteries and am intentionally adding a sensor to the smart dongle.


Thanks.

kafolske asked
kafolske answered ·

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Where/how do I connect the Ve.Bus Smart dongle to the 24/1200 Phoenix inverter?


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I am finally installing my solar setup. I am running 2 inverters. One 24/3000/70-50/120v multiplus for heavy loads kitchen and tools. Also a Phoenix inverter ve.dirrect 24/1200 for security cameras, minisplit and laptops.

On victron a website it shows the Ve.Bus Smart dongle as options for both units so I bought 2.

Where/how do you make the rj45 connection on each unit?

(Side questions: the multiplus came with a tsense cable. Can I instal that to its ve.bus instead?

How many temperature sense cables would you run? I can buy more. I have the option from the Ve.bus x2, the bmv712smart and the 24/300.)


Thank you al very much.

leftishut asked
leftishut commented ·

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Victron Phoenix Inverter Compact (VE.Bus - old microprocessor, 230VAC) and VE.Bus Smart dongle

I'll keep this short. My Victron Phoenix Inverter Compact 12 | 2000 230V (an old microprocessor 230VAC inverter on firmware 1908209) is not compatible with the VE.Bus Smart Dongle and will never be, corrrect?

rudykruger asked
rudykruger edited ·

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Is it possible to update the firmware with ve.bus smart dongle feom my multiplus compact
I bought victron Energy ve.bus smart dongle. Can I use it to update the firmware of the multiplus compact and make settings

Ich habe victron Energy ve.bus smart dongle gekauft. Kann ich damit die Firmware des multiplus compact updaten und Einstellungen vornehmen

leeman29 asked
Justin Cook - Bay Marine Supply USA commented ·

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VE.BUS Smart dongle + Venus GX temperature sensing

Hi Victron,


I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correct. I have a Multiplus 2 which appears to be the unit without the temperature sensor inputs. For temperature sensing to be incorporated with the Multiplus 2 you would require the VE.BUS smart dongle. I also have a Venus GX device with additional temperature probes.


On the VE.BUS smart dongle manual however it states the following:


"In systems with a GX device, and another source of temperature and voltage data (eg from a CANbus battery), the CCGX data will override temperature and voltage information from the dongle."


Based on the above explanation it seems that the dongle is not required anymore if you want temperature compensation to happen as the Venus GX uses its temperature probe values? Previous older posts it states that the dongle is needed.


Could some light be shed on this please so that I can make the correct decisions?


Thanks

casper asked
Daniël Boekel (Victron Energy Staff) answered ·

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Multi Control Panel (VE..BUS) - glitch/loosing contact with MultiPlus Compact

I have a Multiplus Compatc 12|1600|70 that is controlled by a VE. BUS MULTI CONTROL. When removing the panel and adding som pressure to the CAT5 ethernet cable the Panel starts. Any one experienced this behavior, and have you found the root cause?
If i´m to change panel, can I upgrade to something better?


rickard asked
JohnC commented ·

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VE.Bus Smart Dongle conflicting wih remote switch

I have just added a VE.Bus Smart Dongle to my MutliPlus Compact in my caravan, and the remote switch (simple 3-way toggle) will not work (ie won't turn the MultiPlus off) while the dongle is connected. If I remove the RJ45 from the dongle it works correctly.

It seems the Smart Dongle is over-riding the remote input. I know I can do remote control from VictronConnect but that's not as convenient as flicking a switch.

DS1 and DS2 are off (as they should be for the remote switch to work). Firmware is 2606430.

Am I missing something?

Will this still be an issue if I replace the 3-way switch with a Digital Multi Control?

Any help appreciated.

Phil

dunnp asked
Daniël Boekel (Victron Energy Staff) commented ·

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VE.Bus Smart Dongle / ambient temperature

What are the ambient temperature limits for the VE.Bus Smart Dongle?

Cannot find any data here:

https://www.victronenergy.com/live/vebus_smart_dongle_manual

Please help.

ralf asked
ralf commented ·

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Multiplus 3000VA and VE.Bus Smart dongle installation

Hi

If I install VE.Bus Smart dongle to the Multiplus 12/3000/120 (16A), do I need to install T-sense and/or V-Sense cables directly to Multiplus? I guess not, but I wan to be shure.


Thank you

joomies asked
joomies commented ·

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RJ45 cable splitter on multiplus 12/1200/50

Is it ok to connect both ve.bus smart dongle and mk3 via a cable splitter to my multiplus 12/1200/50

Is there any issuses to this?

Sten asked
Martijn Coster (Victron Energy Staff) answered ·

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Installing VE. Bus smart dongle

I just installed new smart dongle to my system, but multiplus compact 12/800 is not working with it. Dongle makes bluetooth connection and shows me battery voltage and temperature but when i connect rj45-cable to my multiplus and switch it on, only inverter green light will blink very slowly, and no ac output power. Victron connect app wont notice Multi either, only dongle.

If i remove rj45-cable, inverter works fine.

What i supposed to do?

nitrolite asked
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VE.Bus Smart dongle temperature data to Smartsolar Mppt

I just installed new 100/20 Smartsolar charger and Multiplus compact 12/800-35 to my offgrid cottage. My electronic devices is inside and batteries is outside so i need temperature sensors for my Victron products. Now i´m wondering if i buy Ve.Bus smart dongle to my Multiplus to add Bluetooth for it and maybe using it temperature sensor for Mppt and Multiplus?

Is it supposed to work together?

nitrolite asked
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