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Smart Battery Sense only displays temp in app when the charger is on

Hello,


I have a Smart Battery Sense Bluetooth connected to my mppt 75/15 charger, I can see the battery temp during the day (once the solar panels have a charging voltage) but at night time I do not see any battery temp information. Is this a bug or how it is designed?

Alistair Clark asked

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How to connect SmartBatterySense to setup with BMV

Ive added a SmartMatterySense (SBS) to my system so I can monitor battery temperature when solar charging my lithium batteries.

The SBS instructions says to connect +ive and -ive wires to batter terminals, but how does this work when I have a BMV-700 with shunt attached to the -ive battery terminal?

common wisdom is all -ive lead should be connected to ground side of the shunt .

I appreciate the SBS only draws a very low current (20mA), however should I connect SBS -ive wire to the -ive battery terminal (as per instructions) or to the ground terminal of the BMV shunt (as per common wisdom) ?

Thanks

Gerry

gerry-mcg asked
kevgermany answered ·

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Problem connecting Bluesolar 75/15 MPPT with BT dongle to Smart Battery Sense vis Ve.Smart Networking

I’m trying to connect my new Victron Smart battery Sense (lates fw 1.05) via a VE.Smart Networking by BT connection to my BlueSolar 75/15 MPPT solar controller ( to transmit battery temp info to the MPPT In advance of installing lithium leisure battery.
I also have a BMV700

I’m aware the Bluesolar 75/15 MPPT (latest fw 1.56) and the BMV700 are not natively BT equipped, but i have VE.Direct BT Smart Dongles attached to both (latest fw 2.26) and i can see the MPPT, BMV700 and the Smart sense on the Victron Connect App.

I’ve set up a VE.Smart network on the Smart Battery Sense and that is transmitting battery voltage and Temp info

however.....

but i can’t work out how to pair the BlueSolar MPPT to the VE.Smart network… The VE.Smart network option is not appearing in the settings area of my BlueSolar 75/15 MPPT. I thought it would with the BT dongle attached .


Any solutions / ideas??

TIA Gerry


gerry-mcg asked
gerry-mcg answered ·

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Orion TR Smart & Smart Battery Sene

Hi. I’m hoping to use the Orion TR Smart with the Smart Battery Sense.

Currently it shows these are not compatible with each other.

Will this be fixed with a software update? Or is this a hardware issue?

Thanks!

wetride asked
onigino commented ·

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Smart Battery Sense linked to SmartSolar Charge Controller

When the Smart Battery Sense and the SmartSolar Charge controller are linked via Bluetooth does the SmartSolar show voltage from the Sensor or voltage at its output terminals using the phone App and which voltage is the controller controlling to?

JR

jr-blue asked
jr-blue answered ·

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Smart Battery Sense and Phoenix IP43 Charger

Hi from Australia.

I am looking at a Phoenix IP43 (3) charger for 3 battery banks on a boat.

Can someone please confirm that the Smart Battery Sense will connect to it via Bluetooth as I would rather not install the charger in the engine room.

Thanks

Tony

Tasmania

tonus72 asked
tonus72 answered ·

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Smart Battery Sense data in VRM through MPPT75/10

Hi,

My setup is Smart Battery Sense with bluetooth connection to MPPT 75/10, which has a VE.Direct USB cable to Raspberry Pi.


The MPPT can see the data from the smart battery sense, and in VRM I can see the MPPT. But I cant see the data from the Smart Battery Sense. Is this normal? I expected that the MPPT would pass on ALL data to the VRM portal.


Thanks,


Cameron

Cameron Gillies asked
abomb60 answered ·

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Maximum input voltage for Smart Battery Sense

The datasheet says the Smart Battery Sense (I have the blue one) is compatible with 48V battery banks. A "48V" LiFePo4 bank can be as high as 58V. Is this OK? I ask because some time ago I hooked one up and it never worked so I'm wondering if I fried it with too high of a voltage. I have a new one and don't want to kill it also.

tduncklee asked
dmikits commented ·

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Smart solar 150/70 overcharging at 16.1v

The setup is as follows.

multiplus 3000

280 amp hour lithium phosphate

1 - smart solar mppt 150/70, connected to 2 - 385 watt 48 volt panels

1 - 75/15 blue solar mppt connected to 200 watt 48 volt panel

1 - 100/15 smart solar mppt connected to a 200 watt 48 volt panel

and a overkill 120amp bms


I have manually set all controllers to 12 volts.

I disconnected all controllers by removing the negative wire to the battery. This was in attempt to figure out why the voltage stated on the mppt controllers display via the color control gx was saying max volt 16.1v. Upon disconnecting 2 solar controllers (150/70 and the 100/15 smartsolar) the voltage at the bms slowly went down to 13.5v. I tested the voltage at the output of the 150/70 and the 100/15 and the both said 16v. The charge algorithm is set to lithium phosphate and each device was factory reset in an attempt rectify the issue.

They have been disconnected now for 2 days. I will test again in a bit to see if anything has changed.

any idea what would cause a 16v charge. Equalization is turned off. Manually set to 12v on each mppt controller

thanks

kevin


kevins asked
Paul B commented ·

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Battery Monitoring on Sailboat

I have an 16 year old Jeanneau Sun Odyssey. The former battery capacity controller died on me and I am upgrading the system to VICTRON slowly.


I refited Solarpanels and a VICTRON MPPT Charge Controller for it, which is connected to the batteries.
The Alternator is connected via a VICTRON ARGO FET to the 3 battery banks (motor, service, bowthruster) and I still have an old 220V charger for shorepower, which is connected to the batteries.

Now I would like to add a battery management and stay on course with VICTRON (I have three smart battery senses for each bank as well).

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What I would like to know:
- State of each battery (and an early detection if one is about to die, as unfortantely not all are the same age or the same Ah - but all are 100Ah +/- 5%)
- Battery Level (in Volt and %)
- Time to full charge
- Time to fully discharged
- Unloading Level / Loading Level
- See data from a few days ago and compare, to find possible consumer peaks

What do I need for this? Is a 500A SmartShunt sufficient? Do I need a CerboGX? Is the grafical Display in the app good or should I invest in the touch display? I trying to find a good, but cost efficient way for this, as its a boat - everything is expensive and has been expensive enough.

obione asked

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DC to DC charger config for 2020-21 GMC Sierra HD alternator profile

Has anyone published the auto on profile settings for 2020-21 GMC Sierra HD trucks? Mine keeps thinking the engine has turned off when it has not.

kwyer asked

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Max charge current setting on MPPT

Setting the max charge current on the MPPT,


Thinking of using a 100/50.


Will that be the max the MPPT will output at all given times?

My battery only has a max charge current of 30a. But my solar capacity would exceed 30a. If the battery is charging at 30a, and I have 50a of solar available what happens to the other 20a? Would be to used by the inverter if a load is turned on? Or would it not be available because of the max charge current set on the MPPT.


I assume DVCC would be helpful in this scenario but it is a small system I am trying to do it as minimal as possible.


Would Smart Battery Sense help identify what is going into the battery and what is surplus solar?


Or do I need a GX and have DVCC enabled.


Thanks in advance.

Isaac Shannos asked
Mike Dorsett answered ·

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Lynx Smart BMS Extra Voltage Monitoring?

So I'm building a catamaran with a LFP house bank and plan on using a Lynx Smart BMS + Cerbo type system. I'd like to have some info on each engine starter battery voltage via the Cerbo, but throwing a Smart Shunt on each battery seems like it might be a bit of overkill as I don't need SoC, just want to see the voltage. Is there a better way to do this? Can the Smart Battery Sense connect to the Cerbo somehow?

hoeken asked

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Smart battery sense with older MPPT

Asking again as no answers so far!

I would like to try a smart battery sense on my system. BMV700 and two MPPT 150/35 and 100/30. All three units have a blue tooth dongle. But my question, the MPPT 100/30 is the older type that takes it’s current from the solar array and not the battery. Will this still work?

thesee asked
Alexandra answered ·

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What is the difference between the 2 Smart Battery Sense devices?

What is the difference between the 2 Smart Battery Sense devices? The Black one is called Smart Battery Sense (3M) and the Blue one is called Smart Battery Sense (10M). I read the instructions and it does not point out any difference between the two.


TIA

Dave asked
wkirby answered ·

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Smart Battery Sense - Stored data

How long does the Smart Battery Sense stored data onboard, it appears that no data is stored on the unit itself, so if out of Bluetooth range, will no 12v battery data be logged and therefore no available later?

mbookham asked
wkirby answered ·

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Best option to get battery temperature sensing?

Hi,

I want to provide battery temperature sensing to improve charging with my two BlueSolar MPPT 100/50 chargers with bluetooth dongle (in parallel, I know, I cannot synchronize them). I see two options, either go with the wired battery temp sensor (ASS000100000) for the BMV-712 that I have, or use one of the smart battery sense (SBS050100200, SBS050150200) that will be seen in the network.

Which is a better option?

Thank you in advance

fede-h asked
fede-h commented ·

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Smart battery sense No blue light

Got the smart battery sense today. Hooked it up to my 48 volt battery bank, did not get blue light flashing or no error light. Charge controller is a smartsolar 150/70-tr. Checked fuse, looks ok. Charge controller works fine with ve. Connect. Any ideas.

clyde0728 asked
kziolk commented ·

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Dashboard Smart Battery Sense in BT + Smart Solar

Warum werden in Dashboard nicht die Temperaturdaten von der Batterie angezeigt ? .
Ich hab ein Smart Battery Sense in BT Netzwerk mit den Smart Solar Regler 100/20 vernetzt.
Was muss ich in Venus OX (Raspberry Pi3) einstellen?



Why is the temperature data from the battery not showing in the dashboard? . I have networked a Smart Battery Sense in BT network with the Smart Solar Controller 100/20. What do I have to set in Venus OX (Raspberry Pi3)?

sparfux68 asked

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Help... 3 PV arrays, 3 MPPT and 2 battery banks

Hi - I have 3 separate solar arrays, each feeding into its own 75/15 MPPT which then feeds 2 separate battery banks (which can be individually selected or linked with a selector switch)


I guess my question is should/could all this be run on a single VE network? (I have 2 shunts, 2 BMS, 2 smart protect, 2 battery sense and 2 LiFePo 100Ah batteries)

My other question is if I link the batteries in parallel, which battery should I put the smart battery sense on? or shich should I connect to the BMS or use both?

Many thanks for all your help

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alex-2 asked
alex-2 edited ·

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Do I need a BMV to use the Smart Battery Sense?

I am waiting for better weather to install my solar charger etc to my campervan so I was looking at the demo mode of the victron app on my phone.

I have a smart solar 100/30 and phoenix ip43 12/30 and in demo mode there are warnings in the low temperature shut off (because I have a lifepo4 battery). Am I reading this right that the battery sense is basically pointless without a BMV?

Is this to force people to buy the BMV for ... reasons?

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dwiea asked
Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) answered ·

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Smart Battery Sense + MPPT 75/15 stop charging at low temp?

Just installed a lithium battery in my camper. Can my MPPT 75/15 be programmed to stop charging below freezing? Yes, I know lithium BMS should stop charging from happening , but I found out after buying this one it doesn't. Not in freezing weather that much, so it's probably not a big deal. I'll just shut off the solar until it warms up.


2nd Question: Will I be able to see the sensor temperature via Victron Connect?


Thanks,

Ralph


rgrver asked
marc-de-montreal commented ·

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Smart lithium ve network

Can the smart lithium battery wirelessly communicate through a Bluetooth ve network to a Smart charging devices such as a smart MPPT?

Eliminating the need for a Smart Battery Sense that would normally wirelessly connect to the MPPT to adjust for voltage drop?

justin-lesage asked
Stefanie answered ·

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SmartSolar and AC Shore Power Charger

How can I disable MPPT going into Bulk in the morning when my boat is connected to the shore power and the batteries are at Float level kept by the AC charger? Thanks.


rostyvyg asked
rslifkin answered ·

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Cerbo Gx with ET112+Smart devices

This is the equipment I have:


  • Cerbo GX and GX Touch 50
  • 2 x ET112 connected with 2 RS485 to USB Adapters
  • SmartShunt 1000A connected via VE Direct Cable
  • 3 Smart Battery Sense
  • 1 Orion-Tr Smart 12/12-18 isolated


Connections:

1 Et 112 to generator Output

1 Et 112 to Shore power line

SmartShunt to Service battery

1 Smart Battery Sense engine battery

1 Smart Battery Sense thruster battery

1 Smart Battery Sense for a secondary battery


Questions :

  1. How can I connect the Smart Battery Sensors to Cerbo in order to get voltage information?
  2. If the above is not possible, how can I get voltage information from other batteries?
  3. How can I insert the on AC Input to show me voltage of the grid?
  4. Is it possible to have separate information for the Generator output?
  5. How can I setup an alarm whenever the shore power is being disconnected?

martinis-thanasis asked
wkirby answered ·

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How to connect Victron Smart Battery Sense on Pylontechs?

Hi all

I am currently contemplating of adding a 2nd Victron MPPT to my system. As I am not using a GX in my system (using Axperts as inverters), I am looking to use a Smart Battery Sense to create a VE.Smart Network to synchronise the charging of the 2 MPPTs.

But I now have 2 practical questions, which I hope someone might be able to help with:

  1. I understand that the Smart Battery Sense is supposed to be connected directly to the battery's terminals. But how do I best do that for Pylons - given their non-standard terminals? Or do I connect the Smart Battery Sense to the end of the Pylon connection cable (where it connects to my DC busbar)?
  2. I am currently having 4x Pylons connected via a single Pylon connection cable (120A). As with the 2nd MPPT I might in theory be producing up to 135A, I thought it would be safer to add another Pylon connection cable (even though I don't think that the full 135A would ever be pushed into the Pylons as my load also still needs to be supplied). How would I connect the Smart Battery Sense when using 2 sets of Pylon connection cables?

Thanks in advance for inputs

wolfandy asked
wolfandy commented ·

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Smart Battery Sense

I am wiring a 100/50 MPPT on my boat, it will go through a lot of wiring to the battery. I plan to have a battery switch that can swap the solar/mppt to my starting battery if ever needed BUT if I have the Battery Sense on my house bank, will this cause issues?

kyle-mccombs asked
lehrling answered ·

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Adhesive to mount Smart Battery Sense?

I have replaced the battery the Smartsense is mounted on. What adhesive is appropriate to use to mount it on the new battery without impacting its function?

john-mc asked
Mark answered ·

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Cyrix ct-li

Has anyone used a Cyrix ct-li to connect a high-power 12V vehicle charging system with lead-acid batteries to a 400AH (non-Victron) battery system (Battleborn, 4x100AH parallel connected, built-in BMS)?

What prevents the 400AH of LIFePO4 batteries sucking down very high charge currents (perhaps 400A) and overloading the vehicle alternator (rated 250Apeak, but reports suggest better run at <150A for extended duration to avoid overheating).

What cuts off overcharging the LiFePO4 batteries?


Any better suggestions for charging the house batteries? The rest of the system is basically a Victron MultiPlus 12/3000/120 and downstream 12V and 120V loads.

neilhunt asked
neilhunt answered ·

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