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Venus OS v2.90~28 available for testing

2022-09-13: v2.90 has been released offically. Blog post.

2022-09-07: Updated to v2.90~28

2022-09-06: Updated below to the full message.

Good evening!

A new version available for public testing, v2.90~27; getting yet another small step closer to the official release.

In case you don't know what this message is about, please start with reading this link, which explains the Venus OS beta program. Venus OS is the software running on all our GX devices, such as the Cerbo GX.

Thank you for all feedback and reports; very valuable as always.

All details below.

All the best and have a good day,

Matthijs


v2.90 summary and planning

The current status of v2.90 is that we finished all open items, and getting closer to a final release. Its been delayed; but now it can be any week. Like next week; or the week after. Unless more issues are found: we'll not make the release until all is stable.


What to test?

  • generator control and handling; both on the GX itself as on VRM (new: there is now a generator start/stop control).
  • tank monitoring with GX Tank, Cerbo GX, Venus GX as well as the new Mopekas.
  • Venus OS Large (due to updates of Node-RED and more)


How to post an issue?

Please keep all findings organised as answers to this question. One answer per issue. So first check the existing threads. If you have the same as someone else already reported, welcome to add a comment saying "me too". And preferably some more details. And in case its not listed yet, add a new Answer. Note that Answers and Comments are two different things!

Lastly, please first revert to the latest official release (v2.89), to double check if the issue you're seeing was present there as well. Regressions require a different treatment than other issues and bugs.


Post about prior versions:


New in v2.90~28

  • Fix page showing about generators on systems not having a generator.
  • Venus OS Large: fix flows missing on some systems since updating to v2.90~27.


New in v2.90~25, ~26 and ~27

Generic:

  • Fix EV Charging Station summary on the Device list page
  • Update translations
  • Add icons for new tank types
  • Rename the "Low power" state (from the Multis and Quattros) to "AES". Less confusing.
  • HTML5 App
    • Fix duplicated generator controls.
    • Improve on/off button highlighting during startup for Fischer Panda generators.

Venus OS Large:

  • Update Node-RED url to https: https://venus.local:1881/
  • Update signalk-venus-plugin from v1.28.4 to v1.29.0
    • feature: add support for Wind and Temp to support IMT (@nmbath)
    • feature: add ability to switch solar charger on or off (@sbender9)
    • Update other signalk plugins:
      • @signalk/freeboard-sk from 1.21.0 to 1.22.2 and
      • @signalk/instrumentpanel from 0.22.1 to 0.23.0
  • node-red-contrib-victron v1.4.22 -> v1.4.23
  • add sudo in the large image: Node-RED and Signalk now run under their own user. Hence ship sudo as well, to allow their accounts to be configured to run commands with elevated privileges.
  • Improve support of manual relay control for solar chargers, including RS as well as Multi RS and Inverter RS:
    • Controlling the relay of the MPPT RS did not work. As the MPPT RS uses VE_REG_CHR_RELAY_CONTROL for setting the relay state, while the SmartSolar and BlueSolar where using VE_REG_RELAY_CONTROL. Due to firmware changes that were needed anyway for controlling the relay using VE.Can, we decided to use VE_REG_CHR_RELAY_CONTROL for all MPPT models for the sake of consistency.
    • Requires SmartSolar/BlueSolar firmware v3.11 or newer.
    • Careful: before this can actually be used, for example in a Node-RED flow, also VictronConnect needs an update which will come in due time. Might take a while its not the highest priority change for us.


New in v2.90~23 and ~24

General:

  • Fix digital input settings being reset to default when updating to v2.90~22. Note that anyone that had these settings reset will need to reconfigure them. Thank you @Ceri.w for reporting this.
  • Fix Remote Firmware Update not working (time out error message) when the GX device was installed on a large lan/wifi network with many devices. Bug was introduced earlier in v2.90 development.
  • Marine MFD HTML5 app: use the new generator paths. Fixes start/stop and possible other data not working in some situations.


Venus OS Large:


Consolidated change log up to previous release candidate

(v2.89 to v2.90~22)

Main new features:

  • Add Venus OS Large. PLC like super configurability and automation, as well as SignalK. To learn the details, read its manual.
  • Add Wakespeed alternator regulator support (monitoring it). Requires wakespeed firmware which is not available yet. More details to come.
  • Add RV-C. RV-C is a protocol used mainly in the US, by large RV manufacturers. Details below.
  • Add remote configuration of VE.Can connected products using VictronConnect. Until now, remote configuration was only possible for connected using the other types of comm. ports (VE.Direct and VE.Bus).
  • Add support for new Carlo Gavazzi EM530 and EM540 meter. Sub-Family X and PFC is supported, part numbers:
    • EM530DINAV53XS1X
    • EM530DINAV53XS1PFC
    • EM540DINAV23XS1X
    • EM540DINAV23XS1PFC
  • Add support for more CG Energy Meters. These meters count kWh like the ET340, which is unlike the EM24 and unlike most utility meters do. For more info that, see energy meter manuals. It can nevertheless be interesting due to shortages on the EM24. Meter model numbers (note the 27 suffix):
    • EM330DINAV53HS1X27
    • EM330DINAV53HS1PFB27
    • EM340DINAV23XS1X27
    • EM340DINAV23XS1PFB27
  • Add option to configure the UI to show all temperatures in Fahrenheit.
  • Add support for the Cegasa eBick and eNerlit batteries. Details below.
  • Add Generator Start/Stop control widget on the VRM Portal.
  • Add suppor for the new VE.Bus BMS v2. Includes control of Solar Chargers and other products via DVCC as well as remotely firmware updating the BMS in case needed.
  • Add support for Mopeka Pro LPG and Mopeka Pro Water level wireless sensors. With thanks to Rob and others for their help on this. Some details:
    • Butane ratio can be configured for LPT sensors
    • Both temperature and sensor battery voltage is shown
    • Only the pro sensors are supported, the older non-pro sensors are not and most likely also will not be supported.


DVCC:

  • Add support for Cegasa eBick and eNerlit batteries. Force enables DVCC, and forces SVS and STS to be off. Documentation: https://www.victronenergy.com/live/battery_compatibility:cegasa
  • Force good settings for the FreedomWON eTower batteries: DVCC on, SVC and STS off.
  • Better handle BMS disconnection issues: in some cases the solar chargers would not start showing Error #67 when unplugging the BMS. Now they do.
  • Detect Dyness batteries, so they no longer show up under as a Pylon battery. No forced settings.
  • Inverter/chargers: show state as "Ext. control"; instead of Bulk or Absorption, when controlled by a BMS/DVCC. When controlled by a BMS the inverter/charger would never show float, which caused questions. Now it just shows externally controlled, simpler, and more accurate: there is no bulk -> absorption -> float charge algorithm when controlled by BMS.


Various updates:

  • Improve Bluetooth sensor menu & options (continuous scanning, see all inserted adapters, and more)
  • GX LTE & GX GSM: Add modem username/password settings, required by some providers
  • EV Charging Station: various improvements (menu, connection stability, VRM, new models)
  • Fix the sign of the current and power for DC meters that are configured as source (except fuel cell and alternator, which were correct). broken since venus v2.80
  • Add missing "Inverter only" mode to mobile overview in the GUI
  • HTML5 app: fix white screen issue on MFDs that do not support localStorage, eg. Simrad NSX 3007, 3009 & 3012. Thank you Gustav for reporting.
  • Fix IMT Irradiation sensor connection issue; after the sensor is turned off and back on; which happened specially on faster hardware such as MultiPlus-II GX, EasySolar-II GX and certain RaspberryPis.
  • Log GX relay functions to VRM
  • Log generator start/stop AutoStartEnabled to VRM.
  • Fix main battery temperature missing, or wrong value shown, sometimes on the VRM Dashboard.
  • Add various new VE.Bus model names (Quattro-IIs and MultiPlus-IIs)
  • Add daily tracker history for Inverter RS and Multi RS, including transmission to VRM.
  • Prioritise ethernet over WiFi. Background here. This is done by increasing the metric for WiFi routes.
  • Fix handling of DC Alternator power in relation to the DC system power wrt showing it on the system overview page.
  • Lynx Smart BMS: add low SOC alarm as well as timestamps to the error log.


Multis/Quattros:

  • fix too long descriptions (Ext. control, Rep. Absorption, Power supply).
  • improve the control via VRM for systems with a VE.Bus BMS v1 or Digital Multi Control: for such systems the mode (on/off/charger only) cannot be controlled, and now VRM knows this and will hide the option, rather than showing a non working one.
  • Add option to see serial numbers of all Multis/Quattros in a system


RS products:

  • Add low SOC alarm
  • Add alarm and warning configuration: these can now be configured in the same manner as with VE.Bus products: disabled, alarm only, alarms + warnings.


EV Charger:

  • Fix EV Charger input/output position
  • Make the remote firmware updating more robust.


Modbus TCP:

  • Add energy registers for energy counters in our inverter/chargers (Multi/Quattro)
  • Add registers for Wakespeed alternators
  • Add diagnostic registers for CAN-bms batteries
  • Add registers for low SOC alarm on Inverters RS and Multi RS


RV-C

  • Add support for reading tank data from Garnet Seelevel II 709. Note that these products do not have the ability to configure a tank capacity. And therefore, only relative tank level is shown to the user (percentage).
  • Inverter out: Fix wrong DGN for INVERTER_AC_STATUS_1 L2 data.
  • VE.Bus out: Do not charger data for an inverter only product.
  • Inbound battery data has been tested and verified with Lithionics batteries, which support native RV-C. The Lithionics batteries also support DVCC with CVL and CCL. Although other manufacturers might work, this is not tested and also not supported: do not install systems like that.
  • Add support for Phoenix Smart IP43 charger and other Victron AC chargers.
  • Improve RM_RV for tank level transmission
  • Battery out: Set priority to 119 and suppress messages if a node with a higher priority is present.
  • Inverter/charger out: Enforce charge state to "Constant VI" in case of external control.
  • Solar out: Fix operating state as this was always set to 0=Disabled.
  • Solar out: Fix charger instance. Was always 255, now set to 1.


Other Protocols:

  • NMEA2000-out: add support to AC chargers, such as the Phoenix Smart IP43 charger. Tested with both the 230V as well as 120-240V Phoenix Smart Chargers.


Venus OS Large

  • update Node-RED from v2.2.2 to v3.0.0
  • node-red-contrib-victron v1.4.19 and .20
    • input-alternator: add /ErrorCode, /Engine/Speed and /Speed
    • input-vebus: add /Hub4/Sustain
    • input-tank: add new types to /FluidType
    • remove obsolete input-dcdc node
    • remove obsolete dbus paths for: input-alternator, input-system,

      input-dcload, input-dcsource and input-generator.

  • update SignalK-server from v1.40 to v1.44


VRM

  • Prepare for two more widgets which will not be available while v2.89 is the latest official version. Widgets are a new feature coming in next version of VRM App for iOS and Android.


RaspberryPi

  • Add support for raspberrypi4 board rev 1.4 and 1.5, as well as the Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W. Possibly other models work as well now, such as the RaspberryPi4 Compute Module. The mentioned ones were tested, and work; for an up to date list, always check our RaspberryPi image documentation. Possibly the RaspberryPi Zero2w works now also; Special thanks to @Bathnm for spending lots of hours on this to make it all work; as well as a handfull of other enthusiasts for helping to test and such. Details:
    • u-boot goes to v2022-01
    • kernel goes from 4.19 to 5.10
    • bcm2835-bootfiles go to 2022-331
  • NOTE: Reflashing the SD-Card is required: to go from a prior version, ie v2.90~10 or early like v2.86 or even earlier, to a newer version. Pis running those prior versions will not auto-update themselves any further. As an alternative, to prevent having to reconfigure Venus OS, you might be able to extract the new boot files from the new image, and copy them accross; nobody tested this as far as I know.
  • Canbus handling is changed; might/will effect some rpi installs. See below.


Developers / under water:

  • Available CAN-busses on a system are no longer defined statically. Instead they are enumerated at run time. Naming is handled in udev and is optional. All commercial products (Cerbo, CCGX, etc) still behave the same as they did. What is different in behavior, as a side effect, is that plugging in more canbusses, for example a Kvaser USB is now automatically recognised and results in an extra canbus. (Not officially supported! Works half on a Cerbo: the BMS-can port will disappear. Use at your own risk and donā€™t be surprised if some day it breaks, we donā€™t test it). For raspberry pis, the only device for which it was needed and common for a user to tell the system that there is a canbus, things will have changed. It will be easier now to get canbus working on a pi. Making the /etc/venus/canbus_ports file is no longer needed. For mode details, read the code by looking at the commits around July 8th in meta-victronenergy, especially this one https://github.com/victronenergy/meta-victronenergy/commit/e9ba4487c2997f021e7548ddea5e0b16c15bb46c and this one: https://github.com/victronenergy/meta-victronenergy/commit/f3f18a3c521b31a6b6d49ff0c234a59334ead565, as well as here: https://github.com/kwindrem/VeCanSetup/issues/6. Note that all interfaces are automatically recognised, except for slcan: the system only recognises those if something/someone started the slcan binary with the proper parameters. Of which you can see an example in our code. For the einstein for example, we defined in udev that when it sees a certain uart; that it should start slcan.
  • Update Linux kernel from 5.10.42 to 5.10.109, which updates to LTS for security issues and bug fixes, also adds support for Cerbo B1 and Ekrano, and adds ntfs support.
  • Update Open Embedded Dunfell branches: various fixes to low level systems and tools.
  • Various stability fixes to the xupd & xupc tools (which are part of remote firmware updates)
  • Transmit default gateway to VRM as well as CPU temperature; for debugging.
  • Add pre/post hooks to installation from USB stick: https://github.com/victronenergy/venus/issues/853
  • Changed implementation concerning the starting/stopping for canbus, mqtt, modbus-tcp and other services that are conditionally started and stopped.
  • Speed up GUI initialisation
  • Re-implement generator start/stop handling
  • More underwater changes on how certain drivers are started and stopped.
  • Change some implemenations concerning tank monitoring.
  • VE.Can: fix device instance not able to change above 100 from the gui. thank you Wilco.
  • Remove mqtt-n2k; broken since 2019 and not used.



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jeroen avatar image jeroen ā™¦ commented Ā·

v2.90~28 is now in candidate

  • Switching back to older versions causes node-red to use a different secret for credentials. Flows can be reployed in that case or "credentialSecret" must likely be removed from /data/home/nodered/.node-red/.config.runtime.json when running this version or newer.

  • node-red: move flows-$host.json files

    • Under a default config, flows are named flows_<hostname>.json, which is rather fragile, if the hostname changed the flows are lost e.g. and hence it was changed to flows.json. When encountering flows under the default name and there is no flows file yet, rename them, so the flows remain available.
  • gui v5.3.4

    • Only show the Fischer Panda overview if the generator is connected and the autostart function is enabled.
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mvader (Victron Energy) avatar image mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·

Hi all, fyi v2.90 has been released officially this morning.

Blog post here: https://www.victronenergy.com/blog/2022/09/13/venus-os-v2-90-generator-controls-in-vrm-remote-ve-can-rv-c-venus-os-large-and-more/


We won't be monitoring this thread any more, for any possible issues, please make a new question in the modifications section. Thank you again for all feedback and testing - appreciated as always!

Matthijs

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gainestr answered Ā·

Thank you for your hard work and dedication to this project. I donā€™t think your team is recognized enough. I am grateful for the work you put into this!

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mvader (Victron Energy) avatar image mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·
thank you! I'll pass it along
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mbosys answered Ā·

Hi Matthijs,

just tried new version but has deleted all my flows from Node-Red, anyway of getting these back? as did not have an upto date backup, tried going back to V2.90~26 but still no flows.


Warning to anyone using Node-Red backup your flows, or wait till a fix it available.


Update, found flow files are still there should be in /data/home/nodered/.node-red

Just need to open and re-import again!



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mvader (Victron Energy) avatar image mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·

Hi @mbosys and anyone else: thanks for reporting. There is indeed an issue with the node-red flows. On some systems (probably depends what Venus OS large version was first used) the flows are missing after updating to v2.90~27.


We're releasing a v2.90~28 that will bring them back. And for anyone that fixed it himself by importing the flows from a backup, v2.90~28 will not put them back.

In more details: the flow files need to be moved to be seen again, and the code that we're adding to move them will, before moving, check if there is already a new file in place.

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nickdb avatar image nickdb ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·
My flows were fine.
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thomasw-1 avatar image thomasw-1 commented Ā·

Upgrade from subrelease 24 to 28 worked almost without any issues for my node-RED.
I lost only configuration of settings.js. It seems to have been replaced with settings-user.js now.

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jeroen avatar image jeroen ā™¦ thomasw-1 commented Ā·
Your original settings.js should still be there, renamed to settings.js.old; there shouldn't be anything lost. settings-user.js will now adjust the venus default config. Preferably only set the configs you want to have different in that file.
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mvader (Victron Energy) avatar image mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ jeroen ā™¦ commented Ā·
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natteverf avatar image natteverf commented Ā·
My flows were there but i found that the devices that the node was pointing to was incorrect, so in the drop down there was SmartShunt(Disconnected) and SmartShunt, the disconnected one was the "active" device.
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mvader (Victron Energy) avatar image mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ natteverf commented Ā·

Hi @NatteVerf , thank you for the report. Most likely cause I can think of is that the VRM Portal instance of your battery monitor was changed. In which case that would be easy to see on VRM. In the advanced page, or device list.

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natteverf avatar image natteverf mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·
Thanks @mvader (Victron Energy) , is there any way to pin the instance so that it doesnā€™t change?
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Dirk-Jan Faber (Victron Energy) avatar image Dirk-Jan Faber (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ natteverf commented Ā·

Hello @NatteVerf . The nodes are linked to the system via the dbus path. For a SmartShunt that is typically something like com.victronenergy.battery.ttyS5. If you change the VE.direct cable to another input on the Cerbo, the dbus identification will change as well (e.g. com.victronenergy.battery.ttyS7). In Node-RED the node will then also link to the non-existent device.
These numbers can also change upon reboot of the system and afaik there is not too much to do about that right now.

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natteverf avatar image natteverf Dirk-Jan Faber (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·
Thanks for the explanation @Dirk-Jan Faber I guess it was the reboot that did it then, I hope this is something that can be resolved in the future
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pcurtis avatar image pcurtis natteverf commented Ā·
I echo that it is a problem which needs to be resolved. It happens frequently to me on a Raspberry Pi and I had assumed it was a problem which would therefore not merit much attention but if it is also occurring on Victron hardware it needs to be understood. I often find many of my devices show as disconnected in Node-RED after a Restart even if all the cables remain connected and have be set up again in the Victron nodes.
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natteverf avatar image natteverf pcurtis commented Ā·

FYI, i am also using a Raspberry Pi so i am not sure if this happens with Victron hardware, my cables also do not move around as well.
It has happened to me a couple of times on an upgrade, i would love to be able to pin the IDs so they are permanent.

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Dirk-Jan Faber (Victron Energy) avatar image Dirk-Jan Faber (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ natteverf commented Ā·

I am fairly sure that this can also happen on Victron hardware. And I have created an issue for this to get this fixed in the future.

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Endre Kiss answered Ā·

Hi Matthijs,

I have upgraded from ~24 to 27 and some weird things happened... Under node-red: all the previously ever installed node palettes now are are back on my installed node list after upgrade. These cannot be removed but are usable again.... My Cerbo GX is in a different location, I have access only over internet.capture.jpg capture2.jpg

Do I need to worry about this inconsistency :-)? Can this somehow fixed, some of the libraries needs to be removed in order to load newer versions.

Thank you, Endre


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mvader (Victron Energy) avatar image mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·
we'll look into this @Endre Kiss , thank you for reporting!
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Endre Kiss avatar image Endre Kiss mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·
Update: I confirm that stepping back to 24th version and after removal of one of the node palettes after upgraded to 27th reappeared, of course when attempting to clean same error message. Thanks!
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jeroen avatar image jeroen ā™¦ Endre Kiss commented Ā·

The newer node-red complains about leftovers which an older version forget to remove. We will likely make some instructions how to fix that manually instead of removing the leftovers automatically.

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Dirk-Jan Faber (Victron Energy) avatar image Dirk-Jan Faber (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ jeroen ā™¦ commented Ā·

I have added the instructions to recover to the F.A.Q.. Please check and provide feedback if anything is unclear.

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juf answered Ā·

The tank gui will always appear without having a tank.

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mvader (Victron Energy) avatar image mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·
Hey @Juf , yes, known and we'll fix that before releasing v2.90. Thanks for reporting!
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mvader (Victron Energy) avatar image mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·
Hi @Juf , this was fixed in v2.90~28; which is available since yesterday.
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juf avatar image juf mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·
:-) yes can confirm
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Hello, I saw that the new beta versions of venus OS should be compatible with raspberry pi 4 v1.5, so I take a sd card that I format, I download the version 2.90~27, that I put using Belena etcher and when I boot the raspberry, the Victron energy logo appears, then freezes with a command line in text mode in the bottom left of the screen... if anyone has an idea of what to do except wait for the final version! Thanks, have a nice evening Vince.
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jeroen avatar image jeroen ā™¦ commented Ā·
That is exactly what it should do. Please create your own question if you have any questions left.
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zarmot avatar image zarmot jeroen ā™¦ commented Ā·
ok I find how to start GUI, all work perfect, sorry for the waste of time and thank you for all this good work !
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itsme answered Ā·

How can I update from 2.82 large 30? Is there any swu-file, that works?

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pwfarnell answered Ā·

The Mopeka LPG type icons work but say "LGP". Being really pedantic here.

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jeroen avatar image jeroen ā™¦ commented Ā·

Rest assured, this urgent issue will be fixed before the release ;)

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kurtinge answered Ā·

Maybe off-topic, but since the Mopeka integration is an issue in the last updates I was wondering if the Mopeka tank information is expected to show up in the HTML5 app in my MFD ?

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mvader (Victron Energy) avatar image mvader (Victron Energy) ā™¦ā™¦ commented Ā·
Hi @kurtinge , no its not supposed to show there. Todays version of that app doesnā€™t feature showing tank levels. Next version will, planned for 2023
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thomasw-1 answered Ā·

Hi Matthijs,

On android based devices it is a pain to get support of self-signed certificates running. Every times you close the browser to have to confirm the support of the "unknown" certificate. Since I have to assure the smooth support with local access on sveral devices, I prefer to have the unsecured local usage of node-red.

Maybe there is a way to add a configuration in the "Venus OS Large Funktion" menu to add a dual support of https and http?

In the meantime I changed my "/etc/nginx/sites-enabled/node-red".

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jeroen avatar image jeroen ā™¦ commented Ā·

if you add

uiHost: "",

to /data/home/nodered/.node-red/settings-user.js the http server will be available again on port 1880 and that will survive a firmware update.

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