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Orion-Tr Smart 24/12-20A (240W) Isolated DC-DC converter: External Fuses

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Orion-Tr Smart 24/12-20A (240W) Isolated DC-DC converter: External Fuses

I am confused about external fuses required in a system with the above device.


The spec shows 25Amp maximum current under nominal operating voltage and 50Amp short circuit on the 12V output channel.


But the fuse advice in the manual is for 30 amps on the 24V channel and 60 amps on the 12V channel - surely these are too high?

I am specifying the integration of this component and am looking at advising 25Amp (24 volt channel) and 50Amp (12 volt channel)


Any confirmation would be appreciated.


Andy

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rodneyab answered ·

The table you show covers the range of the Orion Tr smart products, from 10A to 30A. I agree with your gut feeling as to which fuse values to advise.

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Sten answered ·

No, they are not to high. The fuses is there to protect the cable, in case of a short, not the Orion.

The fuses also has to be as close to the batterys as posible.


If there was no fuses and a short happen, the cable could catch fire.

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radman answered ·

hello, I have a very similar question. for a 12/12-18A, the specified fuse/breaker is 60amps. If the unit runs at 18-25amps, with a short circuit current of 40amps, isn't a 60amp fuse too large?

I understand that the purpose of fuses is to protect the wires, but for this installation i am using 4awg wire (to minimize voltage drop)from the engine to the rear of the vehicle, and then i am using a post to step back down to a 6awg to the Victron.

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motorhomer answered ·

I agree with them being over rated fuses. Yes we in theory we design fuses to cable ratting but in practice we do not. For example a 1.5mm cable rated at 16 amps (enclosed) we fuse at 6 amps on lighting. I have cables designed to take 1000's amps but running on 700 amps fuses. If you have a 100 Ah battery with 60 amp midi fuse at a short circuit current of 100 amps it will take around 300 second to melt according to the Time-current curves. This device is deigned to charge at 30 amp so why would you not put in a 40 amp fuse. It will still protect the cable and lower the time in short circuit to 3 second. I've worked as a electrical engineer for many years and never seen fuses fitted to cable design. Most are fitted to design current plus the % working temperature. So 30 Amp design current at 25 deg will require a 37.5 amp fuse, closes to this will be 40 amp.


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