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Simp BMS Min/Max Voltage of 100mV

How to deal with this problem of almost 100mV difference between Tesla cells (2x 6S) at almost full and almost empty levels ? I'm using SimpBMS to control the cells, with Venus GX, MultiPlus-II 48/3000/35-32, SmartSolar Charger MPPT 150/70.screenshot-492.pngbms-screenshot-492.png

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matt1309 avatar image matt1309 commented ·
I'm not too familiar with tesla cells/simp BMS. I am familiar with LiFePO4 batteries though For Lifepo4 the solution would be a BMS with larger balancer or a seperate active balancer activated via a relay or something similar when cells are full/in absorption phase to top balance the cells.

For my 2p x 16s packs of LiFePO4 i use JK BMS, it has a 2amp balancer that activates above a set voltage. Helps keeps cells relatively balanced.

Similarly in LiFePO4 world I would recommend wiring the packs in parallel first and full charging using a battery charger to do an initial top balance if you dont an active balancer/your BMS is not able to keep up. Then if the BMS has a small/passive balancer it might be able to keep battery in check after you initially manually balance the cells.

That being said I dont know if that applies to Tesla cells.

100mv is quite large for LiFePO4 deviation (again not sure if thats comparable in tesla cells). If it was small deviation i would maybe suggest just one really long absorption period to allow the BMS to use it's built in balancer to balance the pack. But 100mv sounds a lot/might be too long to leave the cells in absorption phase/not worth the stress on cells.

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pwfarnell avatar image pwfarnell commented ·
If these were my batteries I would find out if the same cell was high voltage when full and when discharged because that would suggest all that is required is a good balancing session to bring them together. However, if the cell that is high when full is the same one that is low when discharged then the inference is that this cell has a lower capacity than the others for whatever reason and no amount of balancing will solve this.
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Mike Dorsett answered ·

100mV difference between cells at the 95%+ charge state would not be too abnormal, but you do want to ensure that your balancing circuits can cope with the charge current at this point.

With GX (Venus os) controlled systems, this is normally taken care of by enabling DVCC, and ensuring that all the chargers are linked to the GX.

If you system does not have charge current controlled by the BMS, then this needs to be implemented. My home system starts limiting the charge current on max cell voltage, then uses the balancing current to bring the low voltage cells up to this limit, it usually takes about 2 - 3 hours for them to equalise.

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