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Victon Lithium - first charge - results at end of absorption

Hi All

Just charged a bank of 3 lithium 200Ah batteries (in parallel - total 600Ah) - for first time.

Set the charger to be in absorption for 2 hours - as per manual.

See pictures showing BMV and the 3 batteries - these screen shots were taken 2 minutes before end of absorption (2 hours). I was expecting to see all batteries at 14.20 - but they are all below this.

Does this look OK ?

Thanks

Tim

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seb71 answered ·

The cell voltages look OK, especially if it's first time you are charging the batteries.

How are the batteries wired in parallel? With or without busbars?

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miya avatar image miya commented ·

Thanks Seb71

Wired in parallel - all wires same length - all +ve and -ve going to a Victron Lynx Power-In.

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seb71 avatar image seb71 miya commented ·

That's good.


How many Amps during Bulk stage you charged with?


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miya avatar image miya seb71 commented ·

Started the multiplus at a very low 10A after installing the VE.Bus BMS Assistant. Then increased to 20A after about 10 minutes - then increased to 30A after another 5 minutes - and left it there (30A) for remainder of charge.

In total the batteries spent about 4 hours in bulk at 30A. Then - 2 hours in absorption.

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seb71 avatar image seb71 miya commented ·

30A is low for your 600Ah battery bank. Very slow charging.

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miya avatar image miya seb71 commented ·

Yes - I will increase settings in Multiplus to much higher - when I use in anger.

I left it at (low) 30A during this first charge - as I was watching the V rise steadily - in just 4 hours it left bulk and went to absorption. My logic is 4hours x 30A = 120A was pushed in to 600Ah bank - which is only 40A per battery = which indicated the batteries came about 80% full from factory.

Sound about right to you ? Or, do you think the batteries have not charged fully - my original worry ? On delivery the batteries were showing 13.28v (3.32v per cell).

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seb71 avatar image seb71 miya commented ·

At 3.53V-3.55V, your cells are (were) very close to full. LiFePO4 cells should not be charged above 3.6V.

At the end of the charge (starting from about 3.45V), the LiFePO4 cell voltage increases rapidly when charging. There is not much energy between 3.5V and 3.6V.


By charging the battery bank with a lower current, the BMS has more time to balance the cells (top balance).

Ideally, after a few charge-discharge cycles, you will have all cells with the same voltage when fully charged.

The BMS always balances the cells at the top end. It aims to bring all cells with the same voltage when fully charged.

Even when the cells are well balanced (at the top), depending on how well matched the cells are from the factory, you might have some smaller or bigger cell voltage differences when the battery is empty or close to empty.

You have to account for that when you set the inverter cut off voltage.

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miya avatar image miya seb71 commented ·

So... all good then.

Thank you so much for your help. Much appreciated. :-)

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