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VE.Smart Orion-Tr Smart networking

Any update on VE.Smart networking for the Orion Smart Tr DC to DC chargers? I'll have an MPPT and two 30A DC to DC chargers and it would be excellent if they all knew each other on the same battery bank.


[moderator's note: edited to show "VE.Smart Networking" rather than "VE.Bus Networking"]

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I am waiting for news about this also... I could really use some more charge current from my current Orion but I am definitely not going to drop another $250 to parallelize when I still can't even see/control the Orion from my CCGX/venus/VRM.

However, I would absolutely drop money on a new DC/DC charger that had networking/venus/VRM integration.

Please Victron?

I know the community guidelines say that victron won't talk about new products here. could you at least tell us if this is something victron is even working on? Are we waiting for nothing? It seems to me like a major hole in victron's line, especially where a major draw to the victron ecosystem is the system-wide integration. Is there no demand? Am I missing something?

commenting to address moderator's note: "edited to show "VE.Smart Networking" rather than "VE.Bus Networking"


fair enough, obviously there is no way to add ve.bus ports to existing hardware. orion tr-smart only has bluetooth. so a secondary question: is there any hints anyone can give us that victron might please someday add a dc/dc charger to their product line with either ve.bus/ve.direct/ve.can onboard? please?


even if ve.smart integration came to existing orions via a firmware update, it's my understanding that still wouldn't bring them up to the level of integration present in MPPTs or multi's etc. in a venus system or a GX controlled/DVCC system. Am I wrong?

I think that adding VE.Smart networking would be fairly easy for them to add because it already exists over bluetooth for the SmartSolar controllers. My understanding is that the purpose for this is to synchronize/coordinate charging between all the devices so that they are all simultaneously in the one, same charge mode; and that they can share temp., voltage, and current sense information. I suspect that because the DC-DC chargers may have been ’hurried’ to market because it was a hole in their product line, that Victron hasn’t finished the necessary software coding, firmware updates and testing needed to include this feature.

Agreed. I was under the impression this would be one of the features already having bluetooth.

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marvs answered ·

I guess there are a bunch of us waiting. My thinking is that the charging profiles can be better coordinated and use a single battery SOC monitor (SmartShunt) to provide the battery SOC, temp, volatge, etc. to all devices that are charging the battery bank. I think this is even more desirable with the DC-DC chargers since they have to monitor their DC input status as well as what they are sending to the battery bank. Maybe it doesn’t matter in the long run to a battery bank with BMS but I like the idea of using my CCGX and/or bluetooth to know what’s going on.

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trollan answered ·

Agree I am waiting for a solution also - multiple charges to the same bank - EXCEPT this DC to DC charger... crazy

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ecuashungo answered ·

I would love to see this feature as well, and it would be fairly easy via a firmware upgrade. I have a setup where a smart solar is hooked up in parallel with an Orion smart so I can use both to charge my battery. I don't dare to try to use both at the same time, but I imagine, that with the VE.smart networking it would be possible, which would facilitate the operation.
Hopefully we can get some news here.

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sarahb answered ·

I too am waiting for a VE.Direct / Orion product to be released as well so that I can get a fully informed view on my Cerbo. System integration falls a long way short without this feature in the lineup! Please kind people at Victron put me out of my continued torment and anguish soon !

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Gordon Clement answered ·

Honestly blows my mind a little bit that Victron's major value proposition is providing all the components for an integrated system around the GX family of devices/Venus OS/VRM Portal, and yet there is no solution for DC/DC charging that provides first class integration into that platform.

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markbuilt answered ·

+1 waiting here too. I’d buy two Orion Tr 12/12 30A units if I new VE.Smart Network functionality was coming anytime soon. Does VE pay attention to customer requests like this?

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ironman answered ·

+1 for also waiting

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