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Venus OS v3.10~9 available for testing

Good evening,

After releasing v3.00 (see this blog for the highlights, and changelog on Victron Professional), its time to start testing out new features, changes and fixes.

Rather than a "dry" change log, this time I've added screenshots and text that shows the changes in a bit more detail.

To start of with a big one:

Completely renewed Marine MFD / HTML5 App

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And here a more extended system, with more tanks, and more energy sources:

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Note that above two screenshots are taken from the design files, it might differ a bit from actual implemenation.

These are screenshots taken from the new implementation, but there I'm not able to now have them embedded in actual look on a marine MFD like above:
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And white mode:

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And for comparison, here is a screenshot of the old version:

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Next, there are three more improvements related to Generators

  1. adds support for ComAp generator controllers. Integration via ethernet/ModbusTCP; using the ComAP CM Ethernet module.
  2. adds resettable down counting service interval for generators
  3. add an alarm when generator is not in autostart mode for more than 10 minutes. This is to help prevent systems shutting down because during service someone had to enable manual mode; and then forgot to put it back to auto mode. The alarm is optional and can be enabled from generator start/stop settings.


Here is a screenshot on how to enable this on a CoMap generator controller.

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The data that is being read from the controller is:

  • AC Power, Voltage, Current and Frequency and Energy
  • Engine speed, coolant temperature, Oil Pressure, Load percentage, Operating hours and starter battery voltage.
  • Status (init, stopped, error, preheat, and so forth)
  • Auto-start status (off, manual, auto, test)

We'll later publish a list of ModbusTCP registers.

For the developers amongst you, the driver that reads that data is public; commit here. And we'll be looking to integrate other popular generator controllers as well. In case anyone can help; or has a generator with for example DSE or Deif, then please post some details (which model / modules for example) and perhaps it can be of help. A large part of the work is figuring out which model is the popular one, which is the right protocol to use, and so forth. As you can see in that commit, the actual integration is not that much code.


Then, onto the other two new features, service interval and autostart-is-off-alarm:

Here is how the new service interval is visible in the menu:

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Here is how to configure and reset the new service interval:

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Here is how it looks when the interval is exceeded:

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Still open for this is to show this, for a whole fleet, on VRM.


The new autostart alarm setting:

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Short explanation when enabling it:

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Alarm notification:

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Complete changelog is below.

There are more changes, full change log below.


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Changes v3.10~8 -> v3.10~9

  • Add support for Pylontech Pelio-L model, including auto detect and configuration. (DVCC on, SVS off)
  • Fix bug in remote firmware updates for systems of three units and more. Bug was introduced earlier in v3.10 beta series.
  • Complete ModbusTCP mapping list for unit ids above 255. From now on it will not longer be required to get into difficulties when having a VE.Direct-connected or other type of device that has a VRM Instance above 255.

Changes v3.10~7 -> v3.10~8

  • GUI: Fix energy meter showing only a blank page. This was missing in ~7.

Changes v3.10~2 -> v3.10~7

General:

  • Allow temperature sensors to measure down to -40 °C, was -20 °C.

Under water / developer / Venus OS Large:

  • Add wifi for raspberrypi zero2w and rpi4. Thank you @Bathnm for your work on this!
  • Remote VE.Bus firmware updates: changes to accommodate new models.
  • NodeJS: update from v14.17.6 to v18.16.0. This brings us on the latest version of an LTS branch: all good for some time to come. Thank you @Bathnm for your work on this!
  • Various updates to system packages, including security issues.
  • MQTT: pre-install, but not activate, a new broker: FlashMQ. We're replacing Mosquitto, plus our dbus-mqtt service, by FlashMQ + dbus-flashmq. Further details are here.


Changes v3.00 -> v3.10~2

  • New html5/Marine MFD app. First time we’re beta testing this new UI. Its a complete redesign (totally new look including larger font size, adds tank levels, adds temperature and humidity, and more improvements) looking forward to hear what everyone thinks of it. Some things still need fixing:
    • Temperature, Humidity and Pressure sensors are not shown using their name.
    • On Simrad, the tank levels are not all aligned on the left side
    • On smaller split views, the section title, graphs and values are very squeezed together
    • On Raymarine the component in the top left overlaps the home button
    • Scroll behavior is different when component is horizontally aligned (pagination vs scroll to see more tanks)
    • Locking controls not clickable in horizontal split
    • When more than 2 batteries, battery component overflows. Not sure if this is a bug or a feature
    • Changing the units to Fahrenheit in remote console doesn’t change them in html5
  • Support for ComAp generator controller, details above
  • Adds resettable down counting service interval for generators
  • Add option to get an alarm when generator is not in autostart mode for more than 10 minutes
  • Fix VRM Portal connection for a small batch of EasySolar-II GXes (double VRM Portal ID)
  • Add Inverter and Multi RS DC Power path; fixes an issue with the EV Charger.

Developers:

  • Change how venus-data files are handled:
    • pass extraction result as argument to the post-hook ('success' or 'extraction-failed'), so it can cleanup in case of failure and/or stop continuing.
    • look for venus-data-*.suffix as well, so the file name can be changed to describe what it does. Multiple files can be present now.
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Mark answered ·

After updating to V3.10~2 my grid meter data has disappeared,revert back to V3 all ok!7a90c57f-b728-4658-a53d-82413ac8819d.pngc3312367-5d1a-4e24-8a5c-666df0506a79.png


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caspartfg answered ·

Just a bit of feedback to say this is a great update. We live on our boat and have our Victron install on the same network as our B&G equipment. (3 x Zeus 3 plus other gear) and signal K (on OS Large). It was perfect timing as I've just connected up a barometric pressure sensor and you've given me a super-easy way of quickly seeing the values. I've have a good play around with the UI and I've not found any obvious issues (aside from the bug you mention that the temp sensors still have generic names). one feature request would be to be able to to see the AUX battery from the BMV so that I can see my starter batteries as well as my house.... Thanks for the great work and i'll keep testing it.


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sportswagoneer answered ·

Guess the new HTML5 app still won't be compatible with former generation MFDs like the B&G Zeus2?

I was able to install the old version of the HTML5 app over a newer as explained by you directly above this:
https://community.victronenergy.com/comments/139507/view.html
Will this install still survive the firmware update to v. 3.10?

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gone-sailing answered ·

I know the MFD UI is designed for chartplotters but I use it on my iPad and iPhone when on board, particularly to switch inverter on and off. With the old version, if you “add to Home Screen” to create an icon for this app, the icon does not work. Has this been fixed in this new version? I raised an issue on GitHub for this a while ago.

I love the MFD UI would be great to have that become the standard UI in Venus OS console.

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kris answered ·

Two videos from MfD Garmin and Furuno TZT3 with the latest software versions.


I lost Ac data from ET112 after update


HTML5 multifunctional displays:


Strange behavior in the battery field on both multifunction indicators.


MFD Furuno very poor touch support, practically no touch.


After connecting the etherneth Cerbo <> garmin network cable, there is no online connection to the VRM via Wi-Fi.


No fuel tank

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Lawrence answered ·

Saw in the blog that Venus OS v3.0 was released with Gen Stop/Start improvements and ESS Improvements which will solve issues i am having for a site. Was just checking the sites current firmware and noticed its already running 3.10-2.

Upon checking the GeneratorScreenshots.pdf Start/Stop settings, i notice there is no Warmup/Cool down setting.

The Multi is running 502


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caspartfg answered ·

@mvader (Victron Energy) as requested, here is a bit of info on the setup we have on the boat (plus screenshots.

- B&G network, with 3 x Zeus3 MFDs

- Everything is on a flat ethernet backbone, with a separate NMEA2000 network for the instruments

- Cerbo GX is connected to both ethernet and N2K networks

- Starlink for internet connectivity


In terms of our setup - we are full-time live-aboard our sailing catamaran, currently in the Mediterranean and crossing the Atlantic this December. As far as possible, we live off-grid, with 1.6Kw of Solar and watermaker (2KW AC, running off the multiplus ii). 620Ah of Smart Lithium to give us a buffer for those cloudy days and custom regulators on 2 x 105Amp alternators to allow us to charge the lithium directly.

Photos attached:

4 x B&G Zeus3

1 x Cerbo GX for reference

1 x N2K / Ethernet system schematic


Happy to help with any further info if you need it.

Casp.

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André Jerleke answered ·

A strange note om my system, i´ve never had i before but after installing v3.10~2 i have been starting to get high DC ripple, in the logs "High DC Voltage: Alarm" this started the day i got latest firmware. ESS mode was set to "Keep batteries charged", i changed this to "Optimized (with batteryLife)" and rebooted the GX then it disappearedlogs.pngbatterystatus.png


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jwfrary answered ·

Hi,

I have a simrad Nso evo2 system onboard.

With the app.

1. The system menu button covers the back button on the app so you can't navigate around!

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2. Touch Support fails when you add the app to any screen, like this

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I use the old app to monitor what the solar is giving us and also switch the generator on or off if we need to demand it before joining high load kit.

The days statistic graphs would be a cool addition to the app.




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daniel20222 answered ·

Hallo

Bei der neuen Version V3.10-7 wird der Wert vom EM24 nicht angezeigt. Er regelt zwar aber man sieht keine Werte. img-5269.png


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F Skynet answered ·

Shelly PRO 3em (websocket) as well (no details)

still completely functional ( correct over all phases)

no change on dashboard (just display L1 phase)

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wirehead answered ·

Spaces for EM540 and Fronius Inverter are white in 3.10-7.

Additional bluetooth is gone to.

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André Jerleke answered ·

Same issue for me, started with 3.10~2 but also in latest Venus OS v3.10~7 , Shelly Pro 3EM as Grid Meter is just blank, thread already exist here https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/210047/shelly-pro-3em-as-grid-meter-with-venus-os-30-and.html @Izak (Victron Energy Staff) and here https://github.com/victronenergy/dbus-shelly/issues/4

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daniel20222 answered ·

Cool es geht wieder. Die Daten werden wieder angezeigt. Danke.

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mike-r answered ·

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Thanks for this update. This is a great improvement and helps to consolidate some things for me. Now if could my get my N2K temps and AC data onto the MFD app along the ability to name my data (fuel tanks, etc).

One interesting bug is that my black water tank does not show up in the MFD app while it shows up properly under remote console and VRM. Everything looks ok on my side - any suggestions or is this really a bug?


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teemischer answered ·

@mvader (Victron Energy) flashMQ seems to break Remote Firmware updates in VRM. At least this is what I suspect, but just from the error message, not from actual debugging.1686586847267.png


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Philipp Trenz answered ·

Hey @mvader (Victron Energy), what a great release! I have a DeepSea DSE855 unit coming in, which enables Modbus via TCP for a variety of DeepSea controllers. Can I forward you the modbus documentation from DeepSea? I'll gladly assist with testing.

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iainsommerville answered ·

Is there any chance this will work with a ComAp Generator Controller over ModBus RS485 instead of ModbusTCP over Ethernet (via the Victron RS485 to USB cable)? This is for a Mase generator - the Mase factory supported configuration with a remote panel is via RS485 but I will ask if/when ethernet will be supported.

Happy to give it a try if there is a possibility of this configuration working.

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alan-peng answered ·

In the Chinese mobile overview page, the DC system block was overlapped by below AC current limit block. The bug already existed in Venus V3.0.

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Mark answered ·

Recently Installed new grid meter,but previous meter is still visible on the energy meter list on the GX, but not on the device list without any option to delete old meter!6637c959-447a-4fe5-a1de-cf102c89af5c.jpeg d37aad5b-78fd-449c-bd5c-20e1f7b96f62.png


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felix-schuchmann answered ·

Raspberry Pi 3 A+ is not getting an VRM ID. See my hackfix here: https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/79169/raspberry-pi-3a-vrm-id-missing.html?childToView=212556#answer-212556

tr '\0' '\n' < /sys/firmware/devicetree/base/compatible returns:
raspberrypi,3-model-b-plus

brcm,bcm2837

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pf1 answered ·

The SVS setting in the DVCC menu shall automatically select the best available voltage measurement. This option works with VE.Bus devices, VE.Direct and VE.Can MPPT solar chargers, and Inverter RS and Multi RS, but not with BMS.Can devices.
Why is it not possible to select the source of the voltage measurement, as is the case with STS, for example.

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towatai answered ·

I don't want to complain but would it be possible to update the changelogs promptly after the release of a new OS version? at the time of my posts we are at version 3.10~11 for at least 24h ;-) THANKS!

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