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VictronConnect: see readings immediately on the Device list

Good morning all!

We are currently beta testing a new feature in VictronConnect which is a major improvement: when you open VictronConnect, it will show information for your products (when in range) within seconds.

Which, patiently as I am myself (…), is really really cool.

Here is a video I took, of my electric boat: https://www.dropbox.com/s/28wqdoraucs0q86/RPReplay_Final1653669859.mov?dl=0.


And a screenshot:

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Within seconds, I can see what I want to know: how is the state of charge, are the batteries balanced. And thats done without having to connect to each individual battery. Much much faster.

Currently available for SmartLithiums, SmartShunt, BMV-712 and SmartSolars.

To try this, see VictronConnect Beta instructions.

Once installed, update your product(s) and then go to the product info page where you need to enable the new feature. Note that you might need to wait 20 seconds for the option to appear. Thats something we’ll fix before release.

Besides faster, also the range is a bit longer.

You might wonder how this works security wise: ie can someone now walk over the camping ground or harbor and see everybody their voltages and state of charge? The answer is no. The data is encrypted with security keys that are exchanged when connected; which is only possible when knowing the pin code. Do note that, as always, for max security, the only solution is to disable bluetooth and don’t use it at all.


Have a good weekend, Matthijs

VictronConnect
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Hi all, today we released a new beta: 5.70-beta4.


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Detailed changes are in above beta instructions link.


One nice feature: all prior connected devices are now grouped on top of tue screen, and sorted by name: on the same place every time. Faster to check and interpret and “easier on the brain”.



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baronner answered ·

That's a really nice feature! Like it a lot!

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Sarah answered ·

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dirkmuc answered ·

Super improvement! Thanks Victron.

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slapperia answered ·

Looking really nice! Great work!

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pyemarine answered ·

Mathijs,

FYI on a Macbook Pro running Mac OS 12.4, the VC beta v5.70 hangs midway during the required firmware update;

on smart solar 75/15 when going from 2.37 to 2.41. It also happens on the smartshunt. This is repeatable and the only way to get the devices back is to use VC 5.60 to reflash to 2.37

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@pyemarine Please, let me know the exact MacBook Pro model you have.

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pyemarine avatar image pyemarine jperez (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ ·

Here you go:

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pau1phi11ips answered ·

I'm slightly confused, should I be able to see the Multiplus II (firmware v497) in this Victron Connect beta?

The Cerbo is on 2.90 ~10 large.

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Yes, v497 is included in this beta but also in latest official release v5.60. To find it connect to the Multi with VictronConnect and MK3 and go to the product info page, you will find an update button there.
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pau1phi11ips avatar image pau1phi11ips jperez (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ ·

Hmm, that's what I thought. I don't see the Multi, despite it already being on v497

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Victron Connect is 5.70beta5

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VE.Bus inverter/chagers are not supported via VC-Remote yet.

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pau1phi11ips avatar image pau1phi11ips jperez (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ ·
Ah :)

Thanks for the clarification!

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gainestr answered ·

Do you think that this protocol for broadcasting this data over Bluetooth will ever be ported into an Apple Watch application? I would love to have the ability to see this data on a device other than my phone which I don’t carry with me all the time. Or maybe Victron could develop, over time, a small Bluetooth enabled device with a screen that can be mounted anywhere within Bluetooth range instead of needing a wired display such as the BMV-712.

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Hi @gainestr , that could very well be that we do that. Both ideas have been discussed. Thanks!
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klim8skeptic answered ·

Seems to work via VRM also ?

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The 2 mppts (75-50 bluesolar and 100-50 smart solar) appear to be live. v.159 , ve direct cables.

The BMV values hang / get stuck. v3.11 , usb > ve direct adaptor.

Venus v2.85.

Great work so far. :)



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Right @klim8skeptic works on VRM as well.
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tobi17 answered ·

This is a really a nice feature, I have tested it a lot! But for reliability reasons you should display a timestamp for each device! It is very important to know how old are these broadcasted data are. From experiences data should always have a timestamp - always! This should be enhanced at cerbo/venus gui as well.

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This data is live. No time stamp needed for live data. If you’re not close enough to to receive the data, it doesn’t populate. It’s pretty easy to look at the data and see the numbers changing to see that it’s live so I’m not certain why a time stamp would be needed. When is the last time you looked at a time stamp when you checked your current balance in your bank account?

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mike4nl answered ·

A nice new feature really. But one thing is not working on my site
- E.g. Mppt 75/15 with Smart Battery Sense
--> I can't see the temparture from the 24V accu system

In the mppt view (Connect Software) she is shown.

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gainestr answered ·

Only issue I’m seeing with latest beta is that the SmartShunt doesn’t show “Infinite” when there is more current coming in than going out in time remaining field. It simply shows “- -“ Not a big deal but in the device list, the new BT protocol at least shows the infinity symbol.

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Hi @gainestr ; thank you, noted. We'll take a look at that. Either before or after the first official release that adds this "immediate data" feature.
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netsrac27 answered ·

Does the BlueSolar MPPT with the separate Bluetooth Interface support broadcasting data? Didn‘t see any firmware updates or options under product info. Or do I need a SmartSolar MPPT?

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netsrac27 answered ·

Also what does this implementation mean for the GATT services implemented in the Smart Shunt? is there still hope that we will get GATT support for other devices?

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Hi @netsrac27 I'm not sure yet. If they will, then not anytime soon .For most use cases, the advertised data will be far easier to use for integration, as well as more stable: rather than trying to keep a connected-state-stack up and running, just parsing the advertisements is enough.
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netsrac27 avatar image netsrac27 mvader (Victron Energy) ♦♦ ·
Absolutely agree. Would love to be able to decode the advertising data. Hope you will publish some information how to decrypt the data once it made it's way to the final version.


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felixsteinbeis answered ·

Hi Matthijs @mvader (Victron Energy) ,

this is a really cool feature! I've been looking for a solution to read out my BMV-712 via Bluetooth for over a year now.

My hope was the new GATT service, but unfortunately it is not yet available for the BMV-712 (but I keep hoping it will come). Now my second hope is the new advertising data. These contain almost all the info I need.

However, the data are encrypted. How can I decrypt the data? I can read the advertising data and see a timestamp. But I am missing more information about encryption and encoding.

I really hope Victron can provide the info so I can finally read my BMV-712 with Bluetooth.

Thank you very much.

Many greetings
Felix

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Hi @felix.steinbeis as well as others, we'll be looking into if- and how we can make the new plan available for integration soon. Thanks for your interest.
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pepe1395 answered ·

Very nice add on but I have a problem in displaying the readings of my IP43 when in local, as you can see in the picture attached. No problem in VRM.

Ciao!

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@Pepe1395

Supported by SmartSolar, Smart BMV, SmartShunt, Smart Battery Sense, Lynx Smart BMS, Smart Lithium and Inverter/Multi/MPPT RS.

VE.Direct and VRM remote connected devices does also benefit of this new feature; in this case no new firmware is needed.

https://www.victronenergy.com/live/victronconnect:beta

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wanek answered ·

Hello!


Thanks for the nice feature, this is indeed useful. The Inverter Smart and Bluesolar MPPT will ever be supported?

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