Hi all, does any body know if Victron have made stencils for Visio for their Victron Products?
Or if any body else made it and made it free to use.
It makes lite so much easier when making my schematics.
I have asked several people, several times and continue to lobby for this.
One potential point of resistance is that if we release the full set, it somewhat diminishes the ‘reliability’ of those diagrams that appear to be from Victron, in our style, but without the usual oversight, etc.
I understand this, but also disagree that this should prevent access, and am looking at other options for ‘certified’ diagrams that people can trust come from the manufacturer, other than just the use of the graphical style.
It is possible for distributors to get a copy today if they request access from their Victron sales managers. This isn’t full public access, but it is a path ward for some of you perhaps.
Please keep asking as demand and interest helps in this case.
I just used the pictures from the picture library and connectors makes it easier for non technical persons to identify the equipment
you will find on the product website. e.g
More about shapes and stencils
Hi, has there been any movement on this?
I find myself drawing my own blocks in QElectroTech so I can build wiring diagrams for installations. It would be fantastic to have not only Visio stencils, but cad engineering blocks available with the various connections labeled, by product.
Bump! Any news?
I would have placed an order for a Quattro / 1,000AH LFP solution, months ago, if I could just find someone to propose a thoroughly designed solution, with accurate diagrams. With Dealers unable or unwilling to provide documentation, it seems that we must hire consultants for solution design. The market need for design consultants is obvious, and should include the ability to create accurate well-labeled diagrams.
Bring on the Visio templates, p l e a s e .
Is there any news on getting a victron visio stencil?
Couldn't find it in the dropbox yet.
Any further news/Update on this. I really don't see the issue here. numerous OEM's have developed icons of their products for use in Visio and make them publicly available, Cisco, HP to name a few. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=OEM+visio+stenciles
To protect Victron official diagrams. Place a copyright water mark. Use ISO quality procedures to manage version control (register the diagram internally within Victron) Make the database of registered diagrams publicly available in view only mode, to enable validations that it is a official Victron diagram.
Just a thought.
Please release visio stencils. Im thinking of building a complete new system on my boat and need to build drawings first. It will be complex. And for that i need your stencils.
I don't understand why you hold back!?
It would be in your interest to release them. Many of your customers, or future customers, need to build there own work drawings.
Im planning to spend allot of money on Victron products...
I'm new to this forum. I was also looking for Visio stencils and had no luck finding them. So I'm paying someone on Upwork to go through the PDF's and manually create icons for draw.io vs. Visio. Draw.io ( now Diagrams.net) is cloud-based and free. It's also a great way to collaborate on diagrams.
This being said. I'll attach the XML icons for free for everyone to use. They are not perfect but I'll continue to have them improved. I was hoping that someone could assist me in building a system for my Meridian 459 Motor Yacht.
Here's the public version of the drawing I created: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_cgSoFykH7BRqq-ECAIdWs_vHTshDzvJ
Here's the link to the XML stencil icons extracted from Victron PDF documents:
Feel free to download and share :). You will have to import the .XML file in draw.io that's it. Please direct message me if you think you can help with providing some guidance on my project - I would really appreciate it.
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I am using the stencils Dsdon has shared with us, thanks so much! For now the best there is!
Hopefully Victron discloses their versions any time soon now.
Also approved installation diagrams would be of great value to propose system setups to customers in a more standardized way. I think this would be in everybody's interest and will make a proper Victron setup in reach of more people.
"Please keep asking as demand and interest helps in this case"
I am interested in something 'official' from Victron as well.
In the meantime, I will make do with the draw.io additions (thanks all!)
Yet another bump for this. I'm just trying to document a system on my catamaran with 4 Smartsolars (2 via VE.Direct, 2 via VE.Direct to USB), a CerboGX, Touch panel, Smartshunt, BMV712, and all the associated bits and bobs. I'm going to have to roll my own on a few of those devices as the xml doesn't contain them.
Please keep pushing on this.
While I too would appreciate a source of diagrams for use with tools like Visio, I think that this is not the only issue for solar users. I can understand professionals getting upset about people wanting free intellectual property, however many involved in the distribution chain don’t want any involvement beyond the sale of products. So much so that they undercut other sellers and sell online and provide zero support.
Even people who claim to do installations and advertise as Victron product suppliers don’t respond to enquires. I think it is just a case of lots of work being available such that they can pick and choose the work they take on. Business is business and these people put their effort where they will get the greatest return, that leaves the single yacht or household without support.
As for https://community.victronenergy.com/users/4425/justin-laureltec.html claims that Victron products are meant to be installed by a special breed of installers. I call bs, if it wasn’t for diy instals Victron would lose the majority of its market.
“particularly since Victron products should be -and are indeed designed to be- professionally-installed by Victron-trained DC systems installers, not by the end-user.”
Hello everyone. Sorry that I haven’t been able responded to this thread for awhile. I had finished the EV upgrade and now working on a new project.
I tried to use the old stencils but I’m not able to import them into diagrams.net . I’ll post the Victron shapes file: shapes.xml file github url here:
If someone can figure how to get these shapes loaded into diagram.net i would really appreciate it.
I keep getting the error:
Drawing is too large (20.0 MB / 1 MB)
Did Victron release Visio shapes yet? Perhaps this exercise is moot?
I just tried it and it worked. First I saved the xml to my laptop. Then I opened a new diagram and went to File -> Open Library From -> Device... I was then able to select the Shapes.xml file I had saved previously. BTW thank you for these diagrams! This is awesome!
I posted this on one the other threads as I have been working on my wiring schematic in draft from at the moment...and I was looking for a quick and easy way to create something that looked reasonably professional.
I have not read this answer in any of the threads so I hope it might be useful to the community.
I have found it really simple to download a Victron Schematic closest my system and then use the PDF Edit function on Adobe Acrobat Pro to cut past and copy. Missing devices are easy to copy from any other schematic that has the stencils I might wish...just run them side by side and copy and paste. I did download the Viso software trial version ..and boy did it seem complicated...this was so much simpler by far.
Here is a screen capture of my working draft ....over
After reviewing this thread and D S 's comments we decided to see if we could make use of the diagrams.net for detailed electrical ladder drawings. We are the REC BMS North America dealer and wanted to be able to offer our customers some libraries and example sketches for Victron/REC BMS/Wakespeed integrations.
It seemed to work quite well for our needs so we posted our sketches and libraries to our site and did a 20 minute video showing how use it.
Here are the links: https://rec-bms-na.com/downloads/
And the video is here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWOKHfCTsBs
We would love to fill out the libraries and share them back so if you want to shoot them to us, we will organize and host them.
I would have thought Victron should be all over this as an opportunity. Why not have a "System Design" page on Victron website. The page would allow users to choose a list of devices from drop-down lists of options and the system could screen each successive device to ensure that it is compatible with the devices already chosen. Once the list is populated, the user hits "Design" and the system automatically suggests a plan that includes the appropriate connections and cables.
I am not an expert in any aspect of this, but I would imagine each of the Victron devices has a small list of other devices that it connects to so it would not be a particularly complicated programming challenge.
This schematic could then be printed/emailed to dealers for pricing.
You could even have it connect straight to the nearest dealer search function that is already on the Victron page.
Over time the system could expand the list of devices that can be added to include non-Victron products. Exclusivity is nice, but the reality is Victron does not make a solution for everything, and the designer will need to know for example what sort of amps might be generated by the alternators connected to the Orions, or what capacity the non-Victron battery bank is. Just a suggestion.
I just got Visio 2021 and started creating my own Victron stencils from the Victron High quality photos. It's amazingly simple, just a matter of determining what size you want them, crop, resize and add connection points. Adding connection points is quick and easy too. I have even taken some photos of items I couldn't find online....
The only thing I haven't worked on is various connectors, however a snapshot from a pdf works well.
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