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Missing statistics in Dashboard

Not in the sense it is not there at all. It is just that to reconcile the data displayed you have to calculate two (at least) balancing terms that are missing, they are the battery losses and the energy exported from the battery to the grid.

It would be really good if these terms could be calculated automatically, how about it @Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager)?


This is the System Overview display option from the dashboard for my sytstem for a whole year (23-01-01 0000h to 24-01-01 0000h)

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Next we see the Consumption figures

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So (1558 - 982 = 576) must have gone from the Grid into the Battery, this is confirmed below


Next come the Solar figures

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So in total (576 + 1939 = 2515) must have gone into the Battery.

Also the discrepancy in the "To Grid" figures mean that (2724 - 2570 = 154) must have gone from the Battery to the Grid, we need to include that to get the total energy out of the battery (154 + 1593 = 1747).


Lastly we can get the Grid figures

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So we can at last derive

(i) the round trip efficiency of the battery which is (Total energy out/Total energy in) = 1747/2515 = 69.5%

And (ii) the final energy balance:

Total solar generation (7144) is split between

  • Loads (5210),
  • Battery round trip losses (768) and
  • Net exports (2724 exports - 1558 imports = 1166).

(For a much shorter period of time, we would also have to take into account the net change in the state of charge of the battery but over a whole year this is totally insignificant.)

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Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) answered ·

Hi @sharpener,

There was proposed change in the user interface to address this. If I remember correctly it was deferred to be rolled out as part of DESS changes. I won't be raising it again with the team until at least after that is deployed (and then if it isn't included as well).

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sharpener answered ·

Thanks @Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) I am glad it has not gone un-noticed and is somwhere on the list.

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Sebastian answered ·

Nice would be also a pie chart like the 4 shown under solar,... for the displayed timeframe like today, this week, last hour

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sharpener answered ·

Yes, what is needed is a "Battery" drop-down option, this could then show as a bar chart for selected period and ?2 pie charts for day, week, month, year

  • Input from solar
  • Input from grid

balanced by

  • Output to loads
  • Output to grid
  • Increase (decrease) in state of charge
  • Losses

and also

  • Round-trip efficiency
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