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Which "charge current range" has PHOENIX SMART IP43 charger (12/30 or 12/50)?

Hello,

I have read the user manual for VICTRON PHOENIX SMART IP43 charger (PSC123051095 or PSC125051095). Now I would like to ask – whether I can "only" select the maximal charge current in the VictronConnectApp between LAW CURRENT VALUE and MAXIMUM CURRENT VALUE - or can I really select the charge current "from" MINIMUM CURRENT VALUE to MAXIMUM CURRENT VALUE - freely?

Here I cite the "illustrated" example from „original“ Victron-user manual (PDF page 28):

https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Phoenix_Smart_IP43_Charger_120-240V/Phoenix_Smart_IP43_Charger_120-240V-en.pdf

I assume - that the example "pictured" (in the original Victron-manual) is a VICTRON PHOENIX SMART IP43 charger (24 volts/25 amps). See screenshot below. The screenshot shows: MINIMUM CURRENT: 6.2 amps. LAW CURRENT = 12.5 amps. MAXIMUM CURRENT = 25 amps. Could I choose (On this charger) the charge current (in the Victron Connect app) myself - between 6.2 amperes and 25 amperes (i.e. 6.2 or 7 or 8 or 10 or 15 or 20 or 25 amperes)? Or would that only be possible “between” 12.5 and 25 amps?

These PHOENIX SMART IP 43 charger models are offered in the original Victron user manual:

24/16, 24/25 | (1+1) & (3)Output | 120-240V

Or:

12/30, 12/50| (1+1) & (3)Output | 120-240V

Unfortunately, I did not find any precise information on setting the MIMIMUM CURRENT value in the VictronConnectApp and in PDF-user manual. Could I regulate the charge current between 15 amps and 30 amps (On "12/30" model) - or 25 amps and 50 amps on "12/50 model" (in the Victron Connect app)? Or is there perhaps a MINIMUM CURRENT value – from which I could regulate the maximal PHOENIX-IP43Charger.pngcharging current (For example: From 1 Ampere to: 2, 4, 10, 15, 16, 17, 20, 27, 30, 40 50 Ampere)?

Thanks.

dd33

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Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) answered ·

@dd33

You can change the charge current continuously between the lowest value of the "minimum current" and the highest value of the "maximum current". For a PSC 12/30 the range is between 7.5A and 30A - as per in the manual, which states:

Alternatively a user defined maximum charge current (between the minimum and maximum limits) can be configured.

The minimum and maximum limits are displayed in the VictronConnect app.

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dd33 avatar image dd33 commented ·

Hello, thank you for the information for PSC 12/30. Do you (maybe) know - what "exact" charge current range can be set in the „Victron Connect App“ for PHOENIX SMART IP 43 (12/50 - 1+1)? Thanks. dd33

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Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) avatar image Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ dd33 commented ·
I'll find out.
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dd33 avatar image dd33 Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ commented ·
Hallo, thank you for help. dd33
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Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) avatar image Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ dd33 commented ·

This will take a while as the responsible developer is on his well-deserved summer vacation.

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dd33 avatar image dd33 Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ commented ·

Hello Stefanie,

I would like to inquire - if your colleague has already returned from vacation? If he has come back - could you please ask him - what „charging current range“ („Adjustable“ in VictronApp) - the PHOENIX SMART IP 43 - 12/50 (PSC125051095) charger - supports? Important would be information about: MINIMUM CURRENT VALUE. LAW CURRENT VALUE. MAXIMUM CURRENT VALUE. You have already sent me this information for the PHOENIX SMART IP 43 - 12/30 (1+1) charger. For the charger PHOENIX SMART IP43 -12/50 - you did not have this info (at that time).

Thanks. Daniel

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Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) avatar image Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ dd33 commented ·

Hello Daniel,

And thanks for the reminder! I almost had forgotten about it.

The 120-240V models (full range) are fully adjustable between 25 - 100% (of the nominal charge current). The low current setting is fixed at 50%.

The 230V models: they are fully adjustable between 10 - 100%, except for the 24/16 (1+1) and (3), which are adjustable from 25-100%. The low current setting is fixed to 50%

I leave it to you to do the math ;-)

I hope this helps and makes the decision-making easier.

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dd33 avatar image dd33 Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ commented ·

Hello Stefanie,

thank you very much for the information. "For safety's sake" - I summarize the whole thing now:

If I should buy „120/240V“ or „only 240V“ model - then I can set the following "charging current range" (In the Victron app) myself:

1) Model: 12/30 | (1+1) & (3) Output | 120-240V: MINIMUM CHARGE CURRENT: 30 amps / 100 x 25 = 7.5 amps. So I can choose the charge current "from" 7.5 amps (= LOWEST VALUE OF „MINIMUM CURRENT“) to 30 amps (= HIGHEST VALUE OF „MAXIMUM CURRENT“) - in the Victron App - myself (So e.g. 7.5 or 8 or 10 or 12 or 14 or 15 or 18 or 25 or 29 or 30 amps / So „any“ value). If I tap (on my smartphone) the "LAW CURRENT VALUE FIELD" in the Victron App - then 50% of the rated power - for the "LAW CURRENT CHARGE VALUE" - is "automatically" selected - which is 15 amps. (Because – LAW CURRENT SETTING is „fixed“ at 50% - in the VICTRON-APP).

2) Model: 12/50 | (1+1) & (3) Output | 120-240V: MINIMUM charge current: 50/100x25 = 12.5 amps. "Allowed charge setting range" in Victron app = 12.5 amps to 50 amps - in "single steps". When I tap (on my smartphone) "LAW CURRENT CHARGE VALUE FIELD" in Victron app - it automatically selects - the fixed 25 amps for charging battery.

3) Model: 12/30 | (1+1) & (3) Output | 240V: MINIMUM charge current: 30 amps/100 x 10 = 3 amps. You can choose between 3 and 30 amps - in single steps (So „any“ value) - in the Victron app - freely. If one taps (on smartphone-display) on „LAW CURRENT CHARGE VALUE FIELD“ in Victron-App - then 15 amps (= „fixed value“) is automatically selected for charging battery.

4) Model: 12/50 | (1+1) & (3) Output | 240V: MINIMUM charge current: 50 amps / 100 x 10 = 5 amps. One can select between 5 amps and 50 amps ("Any value") in the Victron App - freely. If one taps (on smartphone-display) on "LAW CURRENT CHARGE VALUE FIELD" in the VictronApp - then 25 Amps - is automatically selected (= „fixed value“).

I hope - that I have now understood "correctly" these informations. Of course I would like to have this information "before" buying a charger - so that I can buy the "right" charger. But if I have understood something "wrong" - then I would ask you - to write me still.

Thank you very much.

With best regards.

Daniel (dd33)

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dd33 avatar image dd33 dd33 commented ·

Hello Stefanie,

should you by chance ("sometime") have some time - then I wanted to ask - if you could perhaps also write a few "sentences" to this question (Which I have asked here)?:

https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/210763/can-the-phoenix-smart-ip43-charger-also-be-operate.html

Thanks.

Daniel

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Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) avatar image Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ dd33 commented ·

Yes, that is correct, except that there is no 240V model. It must be 230V. Perhaps just a typo on your part.

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dd33 avatar image dd33 Stefanie (Victron Energy Staff) ♦♦ commented ·

Hello Stefanie,

thank you very much for the information. That "facilitates" me now of course - the purchase of the correct charger. You are right - it was a "typo" - because I had of course 230 volts and not 240 volts - meant. Finally, I would like (to be on the safe side) to mention an "other" question (which, however, also concerns PHOENIX IP43 - chargers) - here - and ask you - if you could answer it for me (of course only - if you had time for it): Namely the "question" can be seen under this link:

https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/210763/can-the-phoenix-smart-ip43-charger-also-be-operate.html

Thank you.

With best regards.

Daniel

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dd33 answered ·

Hello, that's no problem. I wish the developer happy holidays, of course. And thank you for the information. Best regards. dd33

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