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Volt drop when connecting mppt 75/15 to solar panel.

I have recently brought a solar kit. With a victon 175w panel and a victron mppt 75/15. Once installing it has worked for around 5 days. The last couple of days it produced nothing. Even though good sunny days


When looking into today I found the solar panel at 19v when testing disconnected from mppt. When introducing mppt it drops to around 13v. This causes the batteries not to charge.


Has the mppt failed?


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secessus answered ·

The Victron 175w panel should read ~23.7v when not connected (Voc) and ~19v at Vmp. Is it possible the panel is shaded?

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joshuaafc1 answered ·

I don't think it's shaded as I have moved vehicle during the day to get different voltages. And when it's getting dusk the voltage is less.


Why when introducing the MPPT the solar voltage drops so much ?




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secessus avatar image secessus commented ·

Why when introducing the MPPT the solar voltage drops so much ?

Having nothing connected makes the panel run at Voc, the highest voltage it can. Connecting something like a controller will typically drop panel voltage. That is normal. The panel's voltage isn't normal.


I have moved vehicle during the day to get different voltages

Do you have a picture of this setup? Panel Voc really shouldn't change much in normal daylight. Panel current will change with different conditions.

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joshuaafc1 avatar image joshuaafc1 secessus commented ·

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Set up

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With mppt charger and without connected

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klim8skeptic avatar image klim8skeptic ♦ joshuaafc1 commented ·

@Joshuaafc1 I can see the MC4 connectors on your roof.

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I would suspect 1 of them is not properly assembled. Causing high resistance.

Or the light is too dark, not enough output.

Perhaps a bad panel?

Or a bad controller.

My money is on a bad MC4.

Dont fall off your roof!!

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joshuaafc1 avatar image joshuaafc1 klim8skeptic ♦ commented ·
Thanks for your reply. I just tested the cables to the mc4 of the solar panel 0.3 ohms. Cables seem all good.


Panel currently giving out 21.5v until introducing mppt. Then drops to 12.4v

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klim8skeptic avatar image klim8skeptic ♦ joshuaafc1 commented ·

Voltage is not a test. You have to load (current) test the panel / cabling.

test your solar panels. Follow the warnings, and dont fall of your roof!!

If the panel passes the test, do the same for the PV cables at your mppt.

Dont set fire to anything!!!!

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joshuaafc1 avatar image joshuaafc1 klim8skeptic ♦ commented ·
Thanks for the video.

I have tested the panel. Getting around 2A. The datasheet says 8.89A short corcuit current. I think its due to a dull day. When coving panel went down to 0.2A ish.

I think the panel is working correctly ?


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klim8skeptic avatar image klim8skeptic ♦ joshuaafc1 commented ·

I think the panel is working correctly ?

Panel is ok given the dull conditions.

Repeat the test at the mppt's pv terminals.

ZZzz...

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joshuaafc1 avatar image joshuaafc1 klim8skeptic ♦ commented ·
Around 2a aswell
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klim8skeptic avatar image klim8skeptic ♦ joshuaafc1 commented ·

@Joshuaafc1 1 last thing to check is that the PV terminals on the mppt are tight, or that the terminal has not been tightened onto any cable plastic insulation.

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joshuaafc1 answered ·

I have also tested direct at the panel leads and voltage is the same. 19.8v

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ejrossouw answered ·

I will not discount the switch as a potential contributing factor or even a bad connection. After operation and some heat being generated, connections may be not as tight anymore, especially if the torque settings of 0.75Nm were not strictly adhered too. Is the MPPT still correctly set up for 12V?

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joshuaafc1 avatar image joshuaafc1 commented ·
Thanks for your response. I have checked connections and also disconnected at the mppt put them cables in connector blocks and tested voltage with switch on. And I have 19.8v. Also resistance is good and low through the switch.


Mppt is set up to 12v on victron connect app.

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