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PSA: Renogy has the worst customer support I have ever encountered, and I strongly recommend avoiding them at all costs.

This might get long but I will try to keep it as concise as I can.

A year ago, I set up my DIY solar system in my RV. Right off the bat, there were some issues with the charge controller, so I called in.

After spending about an hour trying to get through to someone, they scheduled a call back. They called me back and basically said 'we don't know what the issue is' then suggested I try some troubleshooting steps that I had already done, then they left me hanging.

Whatever. I found a way to work around the issue on my own.

Fast forward to 4 months ago. I am getting a strange error code on my charge controller, and things aren't adding up (how much charge it says it's bringing in not equaling the voltage of my batteries, etc).

I send them emails, incredibly detailed emails with an explanation of my issues, screenshots of everything, etc. The first person has no idea how to help and escalates it to their "specialist." The specialist tells me, again, to do all the same basic steps I have already done 3 times. Obviously, this doesn't improve anything.

Not only do they not seem to have a great understanding of their product, but their support is incredibly slow. I respond to their emails within 10 minutes, then often only get one response per week or less often. When I do get a response, it's something very vague and unhelpful like, "Hmm, let me look into that for you." Yes, Matthew, fucking please look into that for me. You've kept me waiting for a week, and that's all you can say? My entire system is possibly at risk due to your product and you are showing zero fucking urgency to help.

At one point, they recommended I call in. So, I call in, wait on hold for 30 minutes, then they try to transfer me, and it drops the call every time. Repeat another 7 times of the exact same thing happening, and I email them explaining that their system keeps me waiting then drops me every time, so let's just proceed over email.

Same shit continues. I respond quickly and thoroughly, they take their sweet ass time and are 100% unhelpful.

Anyways, after 4 fucking months of this shit, they finally determine I have a faulty charge controller, and tell me, "You need to send it in for testing." Great! We're getting somewhere! So I say, "awesome, I can do that. Just so I can make appropriate plans, can you give me some more details of the process? Once I mail in my device, how long will I be without a charge controller? Are you going to send me a replacement to use in the meantime? Will I receive a refund if it is in fact faulty? Please fill in the details for me, as I need a charge controller for the batteries powering the RV I am currently living in." No response. A week later (of course) they respond with, "Please send us a copy of your invoice so we can determine if your unit is under warranty and start the process." Great, so I guess I'll just proceed while completely in the dark. I don't know if I'm getting a replacement unit, if they are using overnight shipping, etc. etc. how the fuck I am going to power my batteries which power my laptop which I rely on for my income. But, whatever, I will send the invoice so we can just fucking get somewhere.

I send the invoice and check when I placed the order. I have had it for a year and one month. Remember, I contacted them about my issue 4 months ago, when I still had 3 months left in the warranty, but it took them four fucking months to figure out my device was faulty. Even after going through ALL their troubleshooting steps many times, and doing additional testing with extra equipment on my own, etc. etc. Basically, what I'm getting at is that you don't need to be head cashier at the Walmart to be able to figure out my unit was fucked after about the first week, but no, it took them 16 weeks to figure it out - or at least admit it. And still, they don't straight up say "Ok, there is a problem with your unit, we are sending a replacement so you can swap them and keep your system up and running, please ship us your unit when you receive the replacement." or anything like that. No, instead, they say they need it in "for testing" and I don't know what the possible outcomes of that are going to be. Plus the whole bullshit about how when I contacted them, I was 3 months in warranty and now I am one month out of warranty.

So, I haven't heard from them for 2 weeks now, and I'm fucking giving up on it. Fuck them. I am going to continue to use my bullshit workaround of needing to reset all my circuit breakers at very strange intervals (whenever I get the error code - which seems to be completely random). It's a pain in the ass and, I don't know, might be damaging my $1.2k batteries, but holy fuck, at this point it's better than dealing with Renogy.

I'm so fucking done with them. I just needed to make this post to rant and move on, even though I'm sure no one will read the entire thing. But please, please, take my advice in the TLDR.

TL;DR: Renogy is one of the worst companies I have ever encountered. They had no idea what to do about an error code on their own product. They showed zero desire to make things right after determining they had sold me a faulty product, and their so-called support only responds to questions about once every 1.5 weeks, even after they admit the bad unit could be causing a safety hazard. Fuck them. Stay away. Use any other company.

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Nev avatar image Nev commented ·

A rant about Renogy on a Victron support forum!?


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seanv avatar image seanv commented ·
I'm going to add that Victron is no better. Their products are also poorly made in China and after I purchased my very first Victron product (the smartshunt) that has 1 total of 2 foot bluetooth range, they are willing to do nothing about it claiming it's my mounting location and not their product. Meanwhile when I am sitting in my RV and have stronger bluetooth signals from the other campers around me using Victron products than I do from the on that is 5 feet away from me, I am reminded to never buy another Victron product again.
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seanv avatar image seanv seanv commented ·

The top victron product is no more than 5 feet away from me. The bottom two victron products are not mine and are somewhere else in the campground!! But it's not a bluetooth problem with their inferior product. screenshot-2023-07-23-at-125244-pm.png

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Alexandra avatar image Alexandra ♦ seanv commented ·

@SEANV

Correct me if i am wrong but were you not advised to have it replaced under warranty since the BT is intermittent?

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seanv avatar image seanv Alexandra ♦ commented ·
Yes, now please ALSO post the reply to that one where I advised that the seller was Walmart.com and they advised me to contact you folks.... You might also post where you advised that the LOCATION of the shunt was the cause of the weak signal. Well played though...
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Matthias Lange - DE avatar image Matthias Lange - DE ♦ seanv commented ·

Entering the serialnumber of your SmartShunt here shows you the original distributor and that is not Walmart.

https://www.victronenergy.com/support

This is your SmartShunt:
https://www.victronenergy.com/technical-support?product_id=377&sn=hq2048p9c9f
Click on "Submit a support request" to send a the dealer a message through Victron.

Or contact your dealer directly, this is your dealer:
https://www.victronenergy.com/where-to-buy?dealer_id=1374

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kevgermany avatar image kevgermany ♦♦ seanv commented ·

There's no reply about Walmart in this thread

https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/216675/smartshunt-will-not-connect.html?childToView=217875#comment-217875


But let's try and sort this out.

@Thiemo van Engelen (Victron Energy staff) suggested you return for replacement. What reason did they give for refusal?

In any case the support policy is via the dealer. If you buy from a big box discounter, there's another option when the seller fails to honor their commitment to you.

Suggest you follow the Submit a support request from this page

https://www.victronenergy.com/support/warranty-and-repairs


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seanv avatar image seanv kevgermany ♦♦ commented ·

Thanks for all the comments and the links. I'm not sure where the misinformation came in, but I have never heard of the company that is on file for my purchase. I bought the item from Walmart.com and my credit card was charged by Walmart. The item was shipped in a box that was tan with blue markings and had the name walmart on it. Walmart advised that I reach out to the manufacturer, and the manufacturer ( you folks) are recommending that I reach out to the seller (regardless of that being the wrong person or not.) I am hopeful that you can see the viscous loop that consumers like me are so frustrated with. Here's the much bigger issue; I don't want your warranty. I'm on the road, where a product like this is designed to be installed and used. I am over a thousand miles from home and I am hundreds of miles from the location where I had the item shipped to by walmart. Bottom line is, It shouldn't be about the warranty. I don't buy an item for the warranty. I want the product to work. I want a manufacturer that makes sure before they ship a product with their name on it to ANYONE or ANY COMPANY, that the product works EXACTLY as promised. Who wants to have to remove a defective product and then somehow work without it or make a work around for it while it's being shipped back to the manufacturer because it never worked as promised? It's not about you standing behind replacing the product, it's about you making one that I don't ever have to remove and be without because it was broken before I even took it out of the box. Even if I was somewhere where I could have the replacement shipped to, should I have to be bounced back in forth with return it here or no, you didn't buy it there, you bought it here, return it here, fill this out, fill that out. How about you save your warranty dollars and use that money to make a product that is better quality and tested BEFORE it leaves your facilities. Yes, every single one. I'll keep your junk and you can keep my 130 dollars but invest it well because I'll never spend another dollar on one of your products again, wondering if it will work as you promised me or if it have failed to deliver before it even comes off the delivery truck. Warranties may sell products, but that's only until the inferior product you are slapping a warranty on fails and the warranty is no more than a run-around and a bunch of aggravation. screenshot-2023-07-24-at-91608-am.png

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michelg answered ·

As many other firms, they do not stand behind their products. Basically, they are just box movers from cheap Chinese products. I went into such situation with another firm when their product decided suddenly to not provide anymore power... "Overload" was the message.. .Yeah.. How could you overload a RPro 600 with 35W of a laptop using it ?!?

After fighting with the "support", by phone ... just forget about it, by email, having several people asking me to do the same videos, redo the same steps, they told me to ship back their fucking product back to USA for repair ... 250€ shipping + 250€ return + 25% TVA ! Cheaper to buy a new one ! They don't have a repair center in Europe. Finally, after becoming really angry, they accepted to exchange it for anothre model, River Pro, ... The main problem being my model is able to withstand 3500 discharges, and their new model only 800 !!!

My only chance to get things fixed is to have an electronic lab looking into their product, and fixing it if possible, AT MY COST ! I'll let you know how the things go...

Sincerely, Victron is much more serious and responsive than many other firms, even when the reseller is not providing help, they stand behind their product, and usually things get fixed easily.

So, you are not alone fighting with box movers ... BTW, I also rely on my R600 Pro + Laptop for my work and income..

Michel.

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