Hi all (since english is not my main language - difficult to write; easy to read - i decide to get chatgpt help to translate),
After reviewing several turnkey PV quotes, I decided to move forward with a self-procurement approach: sourcing all equipment directly and having a certified electrician complete and sign off the installation (mandatory in Portugal for grid connection).
The cost difference remains significant—equipment savings in the €4k–€7k range—so I’m now locking down the final system architecture and would really value feedback from experienced Victron users.
System overview (final design)
Location: inland Portugal (cold winters, frequent frost → high Voc risk)
Roof:
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Type: 4-pitch roof
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Base tilt: 15°
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PV mounting tilt: 35° (elevated structure)
Orientations used:
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South (primary)
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East (secondary, winter morning boost)
Design goal:
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Maximize winter production (Nov–Feb)
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Maintain strong annual self-consumption
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Summer surplus is expected and accepted
PV configuration
Module: TWMNH-66HD 620 W
Total modules: 18
Installed capacity: ~11.2 kWp
MPPT 1 — South array
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10 panels (6 + 4 layout)
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1 string (series)
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~6.2 kWp
MPPT 2 — East array
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8 panels (5 + 3 layout)
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1 string (series)
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~5.0 kWp
Electrical architecture
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2 independent MPPTs
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2 strings total (no parallel strings)
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No combiner boxes
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Low mismatch risk
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Clean, simple topology
This is intentionally designed for robustness and simplicity over maximum density.
Key technical constraint: cold-weather Voc
Given frost conditions, I’m particularly concerned about:
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String Voc at low temperatures
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Staying safely below inverter max PV input voltage
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Avoiding edge-case shutdowns or long-term stress
This is especially relevant for:
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10-module South string
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High-efficiency large-format modules (620 W class)
Victron system approach
I’m currently evaluating:
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Parallel setup with 2× Victron MultiPlus-II (to achieve ~6 kW AC output), + external MPPTs
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1× Victron Multi RS Solar (integrated MPPT)
Important design constraint
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No future PV expansion planned (roof is fully utilized)
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Only possible upgrade path: battery capacity expansion
So the system should be right-sized from day one, not modular for PV growth.
Key questions for Victron users
1. MPPT / voltage strategy
For this exact type of setup (2 strings, ~8–10 modules each):
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Would you stay within ≤450 V MPPT systems (e.g., SmartSolar range),
or go directly to high-voltage MPPT (Multi RS Solar)? -
How much real-world safety margin do you apply for cold Voc?
2. Multi RS Solar vs MultiPlus-II + SmartSolar
Given:
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~11.2 kWp PV
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~6 kW AC target
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No PV expansion
What would you choose in practice?
Multi RS Solar:
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Cleaner integration
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Higher PV voltage capability
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Simpler system
MultiPlus-II + MPPTs:
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More flexible
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Potentially more robust under load
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Better scalability on battery side
3. High-voltage string experience
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Anyone running ~8–10 modules in series in cold climates?
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Any issues with:
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MPPT clipping at high voltage?
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Cold-start behavior?
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Reliability over time?
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4. DIY + Victron ecosystem
Plan:
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DIY mounting + DC wiring + equipment installation
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Certified electrician for AC, protections, and grid connection
From experience:
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Any common mistakes in Victron-based DIY systems?
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Anything you would avoid doing yourself?
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Any “must-have” components often overlooked?
Final design philosophy
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Prioritize winter performance over annual peak yield
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Keep electrical design simple and robust
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Avoid unnecessary parallelization
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Accept summer surplus as a non-issue
Appreciate any feedback—especially from those running Victron systems in cold climates with similar string voltages.
Thanks!
P.S.:
Alternative (non-Victron) option under consideration
As a reference point, I’m also considering a more conventional all-in-one string inverter:
- Solis S6-EH3P8K-H (8 kW hybrid inverter)
This would simplify the system significantly (integrated inverter + MPPT + battery management in one unit).
However, my main concern is that I would lose much of the flexibility and intelligence of a Victron-based system, particularly:
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Advanced energy management via a GX device (e.g. Cerbo GX)
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Fine control of loads such as:
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EV / PHEV charging
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High-temperature heat pump operation
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More granular automation and system logic (ESS behavior, scheduling, prioritization, etc.)
Important note on consumption assumptions
I’m intentionally not including current consumption data in this project, because it does not reflect future usage, namely:
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Planned addition of an electric or plug-in hybrid vehicle
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Planned installation of a high-temperature heat pump
So the system is being designed based on expected future loads, not current consumption patterns.
Strategic consideration
This essentially comes down to:
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Solis approach:
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Simpler, cheaper, all-in-one
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Less configurable / less “smart”
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vs
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Victron ecosystem:
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More complex and modular
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Significantly more powerful in terms of control, integration, and long-term flexibility
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If anyone has experience comparing a Victron ESS setup vs something like the Solis S6 hybrid series in real-world use (especially with EV + heat pump loads), I’d really appreciate your insights.
