As above I need to find a manual for the Easy Solar 48/5000/70 with GX Colour control onboard - it has a 150/100 Mppt onboard. I cannot find this manual ANYWHERE and I have hunted high and low. The dealer simply says go to the Victron website. The Victron website DOES NOT SHOW a manual for this version - for the 12 or 24v version of this model - yes. But for the 48v model - nothing at all.
Its like this model never existed
How old is the unit, or do you have a serial number?
Ive had good luck using the waybackmachine to find old manuals
Theres at least a datasheet here, im sure theres also a manual, just need to find the right date
As a previous owner of one i can tell youâŚ
The manual for the inverter part is the same as the old multiplus 5kVa.
The ccgx has its own manual
The mppt 150/100 has its own manual
Thanks - yes that is the data sheet. I have that. I want the actual manual. It seems to be a unicorn.
OK so where I am confused is that there are 3 x sets of PV inputs - the installers only used 2 sets of inputs - currently there are 12 x 330w panels -
(although we had to replace a broken panel with a 320w panel as it is the closest we could find to the 330w panels these days - so I guess its now 12 x 320w panels?)
The data sheet says we can go as high as 5800w of PV input (but that is at 58v and I only go as high as 55.4v) - I want to understand how these 3 PV inputs are wired to the Mppt - dont want to damage anything -
I want to over panel the PV inputs as we are in our rainy season so PV production is low - looks to me that the installer has done 3 panels in series and then those 3 panels paralleled thus taking up one set of the PV inputs on the Easy Solar and the same on the second set of PV inputs on the Easy Solar - seems like we could replicate that same set of 3 in series and 2 sets of those 3 in parallel to max out the PV connections on the Easy Solar - but what if I over paneled that third set of PV inputs (NOT going over the Voltage limit of 150v - but I believe that going about 30 to 50 amps over the 100 amps is fine?)
Of course if I over panel to some degree it will just clip in clear sky conditions but it would be a massive help in our rainy season we are in now.
So this is why I wanted to get the manual for this EasySolar 48/5000/70-100 150/100mppt unit.
One other thing I want to understand - on that third set of PV inputs at the bottom of the EasySolar unit - is that a separate tracker ? If so I could put another set of 6 x 320w panels facing direct EAST (the 12 installed all face the same way - North) - that way I can soak up the morning rays - its usually sunny in the morning a lot of days but gets very overcast around midday and rains most afternoons - so a definite benefit to get some panels facing East?
If I cant do that on the 3rd set of of PV inputs then I guess my next option is to add a standalone Mppt?
(this install was done about 7 years ago - not by me - and the installer is no longer interested in his old installs - only getting bucks for new work)-
They are on a shared bus bar internally.
Each mc4 connector has a current limit of 30A. So it is possible that the pairs on each is under the limit when parallel connected.
It is one tracker. So matching strings and voltage same facing roof/mounting is essential
If you want to add more panels it is best to add a another mppt for best performance. Especially since the panels will be different in model and spec.
Perfect feed back ! thatâs exactly what I wanted to figure out - thank you so much.
OK so no real need for a âManualâ per se for this unit - as you say - each component has its own manual
One last question if you dont mind - This inverter section is the âoldâ Multiplus 5000/48/70 - not the newer Multiplpus II ? Is that correct ?
I want to try using this unit I have to start a 2kw well pump - the old one would probably do it, the new Multiplus II ? ummm maybe not?
Correct the big older easy solars are the âold multiplusâ
The MP2 has the same continuous power. The peak duration is a bit different. I have used both and been happy with them
The only time i prefer the older MP is when the conditions for the install require that cooling be a priority as they have a bigger body and fans etc. but then we donât have grid code regulations so strict to require the double disconnect of the MP2.
For the pump it will depend on what kind of start load it is (for both models). If the start circuit is in good condition i donât see why the newer model would not be able to do the short duration peak to get it started. Running would not be an issue since it is within the continuous rating of the inverter.
Thank you again LX - understand it clearly now. You are an asset to the community.
Still thinking out which way to move on this - is that 30A current limit a HARD limit ? How far over that 30A limit can I go before I have a problem ? I have worked out a design that would would produce approx 34A. Can I get away with that or is this going to be a problem ?
It is the limit of the mc4s.
So nothing to do with Victron per se. So any MC4 has this limit?
Thanks for your time on the matter. I will go research MC4 connectors to get all the data on them.
See notes 3 and 6
Note 3 easy enough -
- not quite sure of the significance of note 6 though. I do get that all 3 sets of MC4âs are internally parallel connected to a single MPPT tracker. what bearing does this have to a 30A limit of MC4 connectors ? Are you just alerting me to the fact that all 3 sets of MC4âs are internally parallel connected to a single MPPT tracker?
The other thing that confuses me is note 7. The Easy Solar has the 150/100 Mppt onboard. This is a 48v inverter. If the 150/100 is not to be used for 48v why did Victron build it into this model?
It is used for 48v. All mppts with voltage of 150v and up can do 48v with the exception of a particular model of 100/20
WOW - this gets so confusing. Best to avoid easy solar inverters - at least the original model.
Seems the Easy Solar Multiplus II GX is a better model. Also reading that the original Easy Solar had no anti Islanding device built in whereas the MultiPlus II version does have anti islanding built in.
Are the MC4 connectors on the Original Easy Solar Staubli MC4 connectors or MC4 compatibles ? Being Victron I would bet they are original genuine Staubli MC4âs but just checking. If they are in fact genuine Staubli MC4 connectors that means I need to source genuine Staubli MC4 connectors to make the 3rd set of MC4 connectors LIVE with another string connected to them. I am reading it is a big no-no to use âcompatibleâ MC4 connectors when connecting to original Staubli MC4âs. A lot to take in for a newb.
I can only wonder if the original installer used Staubli MC4âs to make the connections from the 2 strings they connected up.
These as far as i am aware.
Correct the Easy2 is a model made for the newer grid specs
The way power conversion works it doesnât make sense to put 100A in to get 100A out.
Power is volts x amps. 100v x 50A is 104A @ 48V
Ahh HA ! light bulb moment for me on this. Thanks again LX.