Grid setpoint being ignored? Was working fine for months

I’ve been using grid setpoint succesfully for months now (since installation)
But this week I noticed my monthly peak was 10KW when i set a max grid setpoint of 8.
I noticed it too late so not sure what the cause was until now, it was pulling 12KW when grid setpoint was set to 6.8kW!

Why is this happening? It seems it wants to pull the full house load from grid.
Now that it’s winter i’m pulling more power, is this a feature I’m not aware off?

image

Hi is batterylife active?

Mode is “optimized (without battery life)”

Today i noticed something similar. Just the entire load came from the grid and the batterie was idling at 73%. I had to restart everything. Waiting for 5 minutes.

Yeah, it happened again here as well. I’m not amused

image

Meanwhile an update was installed for the ess assistant but it happened again.

Maybe I am wrong as I am not using ESS, but isn’t “Grid setpoint” somehow related to when to get from grid and not how much to get?

1 Like

Interesting. I also don’t use ESS, but might do so in future. It seems many people misunderstand what this is supposed to do.

I use ess for a few years now,

gridsetpoint is the value the system will try to keep the grid use (for example 50w) or the grid feed in (for example -50w) at

best is to keep at a positive or negative value , 0 will not work very well…

It worked just fine. And now for some weird reason and only at certain times it just matches the AC out load, like it’s just peak shaving. Which is not enabled as it needs an AC in meter

So do inunderstand it right that you dont have a grid meter?

and are there any loads or pv on ac in side?

i also see scheduled charge in your second picture so that makes sense for the grid feed to loads..

Can you please make screenshots of the whole dashboard, not only a small part?
So we can see better what’s going on in your system.

No seperate grid meter no.

Nothing is on AC in, all AC out

Not sure where you are getting scheduled charge from? All schedules are disabled

I don’t have a full screenshot of when it’s happening of vrm

But here is on the console from this morning

Your picture says scheduled charging

Good catch, I did not see that. So I guess that is the bug…

Also weird that it’s not actually charging but just covering the load..

On certain moments I would actually like to able to do this but I wouldn’t know how. But now the schedule is activating when it’s disabled..

well I guess I spoke too soon, it’s doing it right now and it’s not saying scheduled charge

Give us some more information about your system.
What components do you have?
How is everything configured (VE.config incl. assistants)?

3 x quattro II 5kw
solaredge pv (AC OUT) + victron mppt
30kwh battery byd

ess & silentfan assistant

TAB: General
System frequency	50Hz
Shore current	3.0 A
Overruled by remote	checked
Secondary input shore current	40.0 A
Overruled by remote	checked
Dynamic current limiter	unchecked
State of charge when Bulk finished	95.0 %
Battery capacity	600 Ah
Charge efficiency	0.95
TAB: Grid
Country / grid code standard	Belgium:               C10/11 ed. 2.1:2019-09
AC input 1	Above selected gridcode, no LOM detection (not compliant)
AC input 2	Above selected gridcode plus LOM B (compliant)
TAB: C10/11 grid code settings
Use AUX1 as disable FeedIn signal	checked
Maximum AC current for charge or feed in	100.0 %
Maximum generated apparant power	100.0 %
connect waiting time	60 s
connect power ramp	300.0 seconds
low frequency connect value	49.900 Hz
high frequency connect value	50.100 Hz
low voltage connect value	85.00 % Un
high voltage connect value	110.00 % Un
re-connect waiting time	60 s
re-connect power ramp	600.0 seconds
low frequency re-connect value	49.900 Hz
high frequency re-connect value	50.100 Hz
low voltage re-connect value	85.00 % Un
high voltage re-connect value	110.00 % Un
rise-in-voltage protection U>	110.00 % Un
under voltage stage 1	80.00 % Un
under voltage stage 1 delay	0.00 s
over voltage stage 1	115.00 % Un
over voltage stage 1 delay	0.00 s
under frequency stage 1	47.500 Hz
under frequency stage 1 delay	0.00 s
over frequency stage 1	51.500 Hz
over frequency stage 1 delay	0.00 s
under voltage stage 2	77.75 % Un
under voltage stage 2 delay	0.00 s
over voltage stage 2	130.00 % Un
over voltage stage 2 delay	0.00 s
under frequency stage 2	45.000 Hz
under frequency stage 2 delay	0.00 s
over frequency stage 2	55.000 Hz
over frequency stage 2 delay	0.00 s
P(f>) start frequency	50.200 Hz
P(f>) stop frequency	50.200 Hz
P(f>) start delay	0.00 s
P(f>) stop delay	0.00 s
P(f>) droop	5.00 %
P(f<) start frequency	49.800 Hz
P(f<) stop frequency	49.800 Hz
P(f<) start delay	0.00 s
P(f<) stop delay	0.00 s
P(f<) droop	2.00 %
P(U) response	Feed In reduced from Pactual
Volt-Watt curve voltage V1	90.00 % Un
Max maximuminvert power at V1	100 %
Volt-Watt curve voltage V2	100.00 % Un
Max maximuminvert power at V2	100 %
Volt-Watt curve voltage V3	108.00 % Un
Max maximuminvert power at V2	100 %
Volt-Watt curve voltage V4	118.00 % Un
Max maximuminvert power at V4	0 %
Filter time for P(U)	3.3 s
Reactive power regulation	Use a fixed Cos Phi
Filter time for reactive power	3.3 s
Cos phi	1.00
Use lock-in/out	unchecked
TAB: Inverter
PowerAssist	unchecked
Inverter output voltage	235 V
Inverter DC shut-down voltage	47.00 V
Inverter DC restart voltage	51.00 V
Low DC alarm level	51.00 V
Do not restart after short-circuit (VDE 2510-2  safety)	unchecked
enable AES	unchecked
TAB: Charger
Enable charger	checked
Weak AC input	unchecked
Stop after excessive bulk	unchecked
Lithium batteries	checked
Disable VSense (for diagnostic purposes)	checked
Configured for VE.Bus BMS	unchecked
Charge curve	Fixed
Absorption voltage	55.20 V
Float voltage	55.00 V
Charge current	70 A
Repeated absorption time	1.00 Hr
Repeated absorption interval	7.00 Days
Absorption time	1 Hr
TAB: Virtual switch
TAB: Usage
Virtual switch usage	Do not use VS
TAB: Assistants
TAB: Assistant Configuration
ESS (Energy Storage System) (size:1926)
*)	System uses LiFePo4 with other type BMS
(This can be either a BMS connected via CAN bus (e.g. a Lynx Smart BMS) or a
BMS system in which the batteries are protected from high/low cell voltages by
external equipment.)
*)	The battery capacity of the system is 600 Ah.
*)	Sustain voltage 50.00 V.
*)	Cut off voltage for a discharge current of:
0.005 C= 47.00 V
0.25 C= 47.00 V
0.7 C= 47.00 V
2 C= 47.00 V
*)	Inverting is allowed again when voltage rises 1.20 V above cut-off(0).
*)	Restart PV Inverters when the (temperature compensated) battery voltage
becomes lower than 40.00 V.
*)	The solar converter will start reducing its output power at 50.20 Hz.
Output power will be reduced to minimum when the frequency is  52.70 Hz.
The converter will disconnect when the frequency is higher than  53.00 Hz.
*)	Total installed PV inverter power is 5200 Watts.
Total installed PV panel power is 5400 Watts.
*)	Relevant VEConfigure settings:
-  Battery capacity 600 Ah.
-  PowerAssist unchecked
-  Lithium batteries checked
-  Dynamic current limiter unchecked
-  Storage mode unchecked

Silence fan (size:103)
*)	The fan on/off signal is connected to THIS Multi/Quattro.
*)	Disable fan during charge, when Auxiliary input 1 is closed.

Total size of all assistants including the required
(hidden) system assistants is: 2110
TAB: Advanced
limit internal charger to prioritize other energy sources	unchecked

You said nothing on ac in? Now you say you have pv on ac in, but its configured in vrm on ac out

If thats the case, thats why its not working, you will need an grid meter to get ess to work properly with pv on ac in