Dess switched off. Planning to discharge anyway?

Hi all, we have a victron installation since a few months, and we manually ‘play’ with the system since - it doesn’t take losses into account. And when I put these losses into the selling price it will ignore them.

So, 2 days ago we managed to fill the batteries at very low prices, and we want it to use that kwhs to use it for the consumage. Before, when I switched off DESS it would stop planning completely and do only own consumage. But somehow, now it still makes a planning and wants to dump allmost all to min soc.

Why does it show this behavior?

In ess itself what is the minimum SOC set in case of grid faliure?

It’s set at 20 %

It could be just predicting that.

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Dess is off, it shouldn’t be planning anything.

It’s not doing that. The schedule is always ~ 36h ahead. So, once you turn it off, you will see 36h “old plan”, and if the schedule contains no more data, the predicted soc and flows will vanish from VRM dashboard.

This is designed like this, because people sometimes want to turn off DESS for a certain task, but not lose track on when to turn it on again, so a scheduled charge / discharge is not missed.

You will notice how the actual soc line starts to lose seamless connectivity to the predicted soc line around the current hour (as time goes by), because the prediction of each hour will start to age and is no longer updated.

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Allright. But how do you explain this then. I have 2 places where I can switch off Dess. See pictures. The first, with the slider available in the dashboard page, it does as you say. But, there is also the options in the 3 dots - - >settings - - >dynamic ess where I can switch it also. Then the planning vanishes. A bit odd to have 2 simular switches 2ith different functions?

I agree, this is not highly intuitive, at least from the naming.

The first button (drop down menu) is a quick access to enable / disable DESS. That is the one that just pauses the scheduling and leaves the already calculated schedule data visible. (But recalculation and inverter control inactive)

The correct wording here should be “Active / Inactive” or eventually “DESS Control On/Off”

The second one, in the settings menu, then has the additional functionality to remove the graphs and controls for DESS as well. So, this is more a real “Enabled / Disabled”.