3.52~2 Grid and Genset reversed

It’s great that the grid and genset meters are now always displayed, even when the inverter/charger is switched off. Many thanks for that.

However, compared to v3.51 (see below), the grid and genset are now swapped.
In addition, the “wandering warts” on the generator are still missing.

And to make the wishes perfect (it’s almost Christmas) only the grid (previously the generator) is now displayed on the overview page. Perhaps both could be shown there?

Hey @PF_1 , thanks for your feedback.

We’ll make sure that the grid is always shown on top, so they don’t move around.

Your other remarks will be looked at as well

Have a good day!

hi again @PF_1 , this has been fixed per Venus OS v3.52~4, could you check and confirm for me? That would be great.

Hello Victron Team,

Thank you for your once again very quick response.
Mains and generator are now back in the old order, but the “wandering warts” for the upper box (now the mains) are not yet running.

I have also noticed that the three-phase display of the multi/quattro has now given way to a total display for the AC loads and the protected loads, i suppose. But this is probably intentional.
If this is true, it might not be a bad idea to swap the order here too so that it matches the boxes on the right-hand side.

Perhaps another hint.
When the generator is switched off, the warts also run in the upper box (mains)

Hi @PF_1 ,

Welcome! Wrt the wandering warts: I’m afraid your system is of a type that simply isn’t considered.

A quattro can connect to only one source at a time, and thats how the wandering warts work. They run for the input currently connected to by the quattro.

I’m not sure what you mean with that?

AC Loads box contains total of loads connected in input side of the Multi.

Essential loads box contains total of loads connected to output side and are the loads that will remain powered when system goes into inverter mode (because told so or because of mains/genset failure)

You are right, it is a (single-phase) Quattro. And indeed, when the generator is running (on AC-in1), AC-in2 is disconnected from the grid. However, the grid continues to supply the AC loads. In this respect, there is a flow of energy from the grid to the AC loads. (which is not represented by the warts)

The other point: What I meant by the three-phase reference was this:

Only two stripes are shown here, not three, and I thought it was the sum of the AC loads on the one hand and the protected loads on the other hand.
But during the day the three stripes were suddenly there again:

Finally, I would like to draw your attention to another point. In the figure above, 226 W is drawn from the grid and 273 W from the generator. But in the corresponding short overview, only the power of the generator is displayed (unfortunately not exactly the same value as in the previous figure).

Shouldn’t both sources (mains and generator) be shown on the left-hand side? Or is there not enough space if a PV inverter is added? Then at least the sum of grid and generator should be shown so that the balance (left side, right side) is correct again.

Hi,

Having, and using grid and genset at the same time is not at all part of the design criteria. Also in gui-v1 that didn’t work. And its quite a rare situation - would be great to support that and noted; but not something we’ll be looking in now.