Hi,
In austria there is a new bonus for PV products made in europe. Are Victron MPPT and Multiplus II made in Europe?
If so can Victron register their products in austria? I only have a german site:
Europe Bonus
R&D is in the Netherlands but production of most (all?) components is not in the EU as far as I know.
I would ask another one…
How many years up until the Victron business will be sold to a big green company/holding ?.. 
50 years this year Alex. That’s pretty much a statement on its own.
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True, but there were other times…
Nowadays the competition is fierce and technology is evolving in a very quick pace.
At some point a family business, with limited resources compared with industry big players, will remain behind.
In this two years when we are still waiting for the RS19 and HS19 to come out, the competition has put on the market quite a few new models…
Indeed, the passion of some for Victron will keep the business afloat for a while, but a good manager knows when to call it a day.
Just like the passion for Land Rover and look now they are part of Indian Tata Motors.
Or Volvo and now they are part of Chinese Geely Group.
When competitors have a passion for precision and toroidal transformers, then maybe Victron will be worried 
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I think there’s real value in taking a cautious approach, especially when it comes to high-voltage systems. They’ve only been mainstream for only a few years and there are still unknowns around reliability and long-term performance as well as HV knowlege is not so mainstream. I’ve seen (and heard of) some pretty dramatic failures in early systems, which raises valid safety concerns.
There is also the concern about less professional section thinking the new cool toy is fun…
This is still a young market—more mature than AI in some ways, but still developing. And for a small company, the cost of a major mistake can be crippling. The leading edge often comes with risks; sometimes, the cutting edge is the bleeding edge.
Sometimes its best to focus on a few things and be great at those.
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Don’t forget…for Victron, PV systems are just one of several business areas. Here, they certainly play a marginal role. In the caravan sector, things are completely different.
All valid points and true.
But Alexandra, come on, RS19 is no different, in terms of voltages, than Multi RS. Just a different packing.
And for sure, as many batteries come now in rack-type versions, the RS19 will be a big hit, much more than Multi RS.
Imagine how compact and nice will be all, when installed in a server rack enclosure.
But as I’ve said, 2 years now and the RS19 is just being shown at fairs, no market hit yet. Without trying to be mean, I could bet that in the first year was just a firmware for show, that display a couple of things on display and no real functionality.
Someone has been told that RS19 will be available in Q2 2025… I could be wrong, cause arithmetic is not my forte, but that time has passed…
I will be there at the next fair with the money in my hand. Will see if they’ll give me a RS19…
And cutting edge in case of Multi RS and RS19? Come on, HF, HV inverters were here way before Victron decided to try this way…
When this happened, if the market was flooded with Chinese HF, HV inverters, when, if you think, the Chinese come generally second after copying something, then Victron was the third at the table… So a mature market.
Don’t get me wrong… I like the products and therefore I care. And for a guy that cares, I am pissed off by the slow motion some things move in various aspects. Both hardware and software… Just like a granny crossing the street… Grandpa Victron… 
Sorry @Sarowe1990, don’t really get it… Marginal role where? In the caravan area or PV area?
Based purely on sales figures in the PV sector! At least in the German market. They have a significantly higher market share in the caravan sector.
Nope…made in India
All the Victron products i have state “Made in India” 
I too wish that victron would make some updates to the US market products, however I am slowly grasping that Victron as a company works hard to improve their rock solid platform. I looked into the cheap Chinese systems like EG4 but in the end I saw the issues with them and saw how their producer turned off thousands of units remotely from China, and capacitor issues. I feel the cheap flashy products that have all the bells and whistles are vaporware and not built to set and forget problem free for years. It’s taken me a bit to realize that once you set the system up it just works and does the job. People like Will Prowse push the latest and greatest but months later people come out with issues. I’m happy with the slow going software updates knowing that the end result will just work. The market changes daily and here in the United States the power company monopolies are slowly dropping net metering and starting to charge extra for people with solar. We ended up dumping the grid completely, doing a lot of research into grid tied systems in the US is fruitless at this point and victron is probly one of the best off-grid systems on the market world wide.
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The same reasons I switched to Victron and glad I’ve done it.
First thing was to open it and extract some pieces of schematic and immediately felt, if you can say that, the hardware quality.
Still, some problem exists too, but those are because of the manufacturer (India/China/Malaysia), not because of the HW design.
For me Victron’s slow pace in software zone is the main frustrating issue, but at least they are trying to improve and keep close to the users.
Hats down for that ! 
Still, the same “collective brain” of the user pool is the thing that keeps their quality going…
Don’t know what they’ll do without it and I don’t even want to think about it…
I have a friend with an inverter from the Taiwanese company which came originally with the design that all are copying, and he had some problems with the hardware. Exactly with some capacitors.
Can you point out some links for the “turn off from China” issue 
and “capacitor problems”, in order to not pollute this topic with other’s problems? Apologies in advance for this to the moderators.
To be fair, if they want, Victron could also turn off our inverters remotely…
As long as the users can do that from VRM through Inverter/Charger Control, so Victron can also do it…
Of course, the two way communication should (officially) be active, but that is enabled anyway by many.
God moves in mysterious ways 
Deye,mthey were made by sol-ark, apparently they remotely bricked a bunch of inverts sold in the US and a few other locations. Google has a bunch of articles about it, I read it on a solar forum. Possibly reddit.