Scheduled charging & Feature request

  1. A feature request please -

Can you expand the price per kWh to 3 decimal places please.

Here in the UK, several of the smart tariffs we now have available to us are priced in fractions of a penny. Eg 6.7p, 7.5p. I’m currently on the Octopus Go tariff at 8.5p per kWh.

So can you change the price input field to £X.XXX instead of the current £X.XX

  1. I want to charge my car (2022 Kia Niro EV) using the cars built-in scheduling over the winter months as this will trigger battery preheating during the colder weather rather than using the scheduling option within the EVCS menus that I’ve been using during the summer.

My question is what settings do I need to make on the EVCS charger to allow scheduled charging via the car’s system to work please?

I don’t understand what I need to do to get scheduled charging to work in this way?

Thanks in advance.

Hi, 1- we can do it probably, I will discuss with the team; 2. it should work without any setiing, jus leave the car connected in manual mode and stopped. When the car is requesting the charge, it shoudl start.

Thanks for your prompt reply.

Re 2) Scheduled charging - do I need to set the “contactor active when charged “ to open or closed please?

leave as default (open)

Menu has settings called “Disabled” and “Enabled”. Can we either stick to these terms or rename them to “Open” and “Closed” if more suitable, please? “Disabled” is default in my system (seems to be opposite to “Open”). @lpopescu Can you specify what you mean, please?

What menu ? can you share a picture?

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This menu above.
I’m not trying to be argumentative, but I find it very difficult to identify any consistency in how this function works. When I use it as recommended (Enabled), I either encounter a charging error or no cabin heating at all.
Conversely, if I disable it, heating works—but only if I include the departure time in the charging schedule.

The default is disabled, only on some very old cars keeping the contactor active helps.

Thank you @lpopescu. Seems opposite than what you replied to OP though.

Can you then confirm that the car’s departure time (battery + cabin pre-heating) needs to be included within the charging schedule, if the cable is plugged?
If so, it would be great feature that you could (optionally) let this minor power through, even if it is not within your schedule. Not sure if your are able to seperate these “requests” from the car’s OBC?

It is not opposite, contactor open is the same as disabled
Not sure I understand what to confirm.
If you use the car scheduler, just leave the car plugged, no scheduler on the EVCS side, just leave it in manual mode. And when the car is waking up to start charging, the EVCS should switch to charging mode (form stopped)

Is this answering your question?

I am using the schedule in the EVCS currently - not the car, but want to have the option to pre-heat the car outside the set schedule.

The EVCS scheduler is for charging. If you want to combine it somehow with the preheating, I’m not sure, probably it depends on the car.

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Hello again Lucian,

I have tried several times now and I have not been able to get our Kia Niro EV4 2022 to charge overnight using the cars own scheduling and the settings you have suggested to on the EVCS NS.

I have tried on the EVCS NS in manual mode with charging set to off and with both the contactors set to open and closed.

On the Kia app in the scheduling settings, I have our overnight cheap rate set between 00:30 - 05:30 (Octopus Go tariff), the car battery max SOC set to 70% and planned next journey departure time set to 08:30.

I turn on the departure time with a slider, tap save at the bottom of the screen and this sends the schedule to the car. 20 or 30 seconds later I get a notification back at the top of my phone that the schedule is set.

For the 2 times I’ve tried this 1) with contactors set to enabled and 2) contactors set to disabled, I’ve woken up the next morning and the car has not charged.

I tried again last night, again with the contractors set to closed and happened to wake up around 4am, so I took a look at VRM to observe that nothing was happening and the car wasn’t charging.

At that point, I went into the controls section in VRM and manually started a charge by tapping on the charge slider, then confirm. The car started to charge straight away and I went back to sleep.

I’ve woken this morning to discover that the car didn’t stop charging at the end of the cheap overnight period at 5:30am, it appears it carried on charging until it reached the 70% SOC setting that was set which didn’t occur until around 6:30am.

So we have consumed the extra hour of around 7kWh at 30.5p instead of the 8.5p on the cheap overnight rate! :frowning:

Are there some other settings I’m missing or is your EVCS NS charger simply not compatible with the Kia Niro EV scheduling software?

You need to enable charging otherwise EVCS can’t give power when car requests.

You can do it manually each time or enable autostart.

And if you use car schedule then charging is controlled entirely by car, not EVCS. If it doesn’t stop charging then it’s car’s issue. Perhaps target SOC is more important than schedule.

Thanks @AhtiH

I have turned autostart back on and will give it another try tonight.

It’s a bit of a long winded process as the car starts to charge straight away when I plugged it in and then have to stop the car charging via the Kia app.

I’ve set the charging schedule via the car app and sent it to the car.

Let’s see if we wake up in the morning with a charged car or not this time???