Pytes V16 (16kWh) vs 3x Pylontech US5000 (14.4kWh) - Which one for a new Victron setup?

Hi everyone,

I am designing a new 8kWp DIY solar system with a Victron MultiPlus-II and I’m hesitant between two battery options:

  1. 1 x Pytes V16 (16kWh)

  2. 3 x Pylontech US5000 (14.4kWh total)

Here is my current comparison:

  • Footprint & Wiring: Pytes wins easily. Single compact unit, no rack needed, clean 70 mm² (2/0AWG) direct connection. Pylontech requires a rack, multiple parallel connections, and careful cable balancing.

  • Technology: Pytes uses newer, high-density cells, while Pylontech uses older but highly proven technology.

  • Capacity: Pytes offers 16kWh vs 14.4kWh for the 3x US5000 pack.

  • Support: Pytes claims to have an active European support office.

Has anyone here switched from Pylontech to Pytes, or faced this exact dilemma? Which one did you choose and why?

Thanks for your insights!

If rackmounting is a pro or a con is up to you, but cabling isnt that much of a big deal. And if you mean by “careful cable balancing” to make both main connections the same length, then yes you can do that, but if one is a bit longer then so what.

MP2-GX mounted on the back, only one cable connecting the unit, mains for ACin. The rest is contained in the rack or wireless. To me thats definitely a pro for the rack mounts.

As far as I know, your cabling config is not a supported config. Pylon says max 2xUS5000 per cable set. Please note that this is not just because of the 100A or 200A or 300A charge and discharge rates you configure in your fuse and Cerbo. I have been told it has to with short circuit current breaking within the unit.

Agreed that technically this is not much different from other vendors just hooking up more Ah internally before breaking. But most have switched to T fuses internally. Whatever the reason: it’s not supported according to the manual thereby making the cabling argument in the original post a valid consideration.

Pylons have only 15cells. The lower voltage in theory make them slightly less efficient.

Other than that. I just choose Pylons because there’re reliable and integration with Victron is flawless.

While i can understand that reasoning, i would be interested of the source. Theres no mention of that in the US5000 manual. Only that you need to consider the 100A continuous rating of the main cables. Theres even pictures showing four packs in parallel with only one main cable set. And even worse, theres stacks of six being shown with two sets of main cables, which then again goes into the cable length issue territorry, since the middle packs would see more cable length and interconnect points

One more thing to consider…

One Pytes malfunction → system down.
One Pylon malfunction → 33% reduction in battery capacity, but system up and running.

This is my first thought, too. Now, if the comparison were between three Pytes V5 and three Pylontech 5000US, I’d choose the Pytes without hesitation.

That’s a classic argument, and on paper, the redundancy of a multi-pack setup like 3x US5000 sounds great: if one pack fails, you still have 66% capacity.

However, in real-world DIY installations, physical and electrical reality often tells a different story.

1. The “Single Point of Failure” paradox

By splitting your storage into 3 separate packs, you aren’t just adding redundancy; you are multiplying your failure points by 3. You now have 3 internal BMS boards, 3 sets of internal fuses, 3 times the internal MOSFETs, and 3 times the physical connections.

2. The communication daisy-chain vulnerability

In a multi-pack Pylontech setup, the batteries communicate in a Master/Slave cascade. If a single cheap RJ45 link cable oxidizes, wiggles loose, or gets interference, the Master BMS loses track of the stack. When that happens, the system doesn’t run at “66%”—the whole battery bank safety-trips, and the Cerbo GX shuts down DC power. Your redundancy is killed by a simple comms link.

3. Balancing and maintenance nightmares over time

If one US5000 actually fails after 3 or 4 years and you send it back for warranty, running the remaining two is fine. But when the replacement/repaired pack comes back, you will be mixing a brand-new pack with two aged packs (different internal resistance, different SOH). Re-balancing that bank so they charge and discharge evenly without one pack tripping on overvoltage/undervoltage is a massive headache.

4. Cable clutter, connection points, and resistance

To run a 3x US5000 setup safely and avoid overloading the proprietary Amphenol connectors on the first unit (which are thermally limited), you cannot simply daisy-chain them in a single row. You are forced to split the stack into multiple cable runs going to a common busbar (like a Victron Lynx).

This means managing multiple sets of heavy-gauge DC cables of identical lengths to ensure equal resistance, doubling the number of connection points, and multiplying the risks of a poorly crimped lug or a slightly loose connector that would unbalance the whole bank.

5. Simplicity vs. Redundancy

For a stationary home system, which strategy actually brings more real-world reliability?

  • Is it better to choose simplicity with a single, robust 16S monoblock (like the Pytes V16) to eliminate 90% of the wiring, balancing, and communication failure points from day one?
  • Or is the theoretical redundancy of a multi-pack system (like 3x US5000) worth the added complexity and the manual troubleshooting required when a failure actually occurs?

I’d be curious to hear your thoughts and real-world experiences on this balance between simplicity and modularity!

I built my 14.4 kWh battery myself from 16 EVE 280 Ah cells and a JK inverter BMS. Now I would probably buy a ready-built NKON battery.

The reason for my decision is: these batteries are working very well together with Victron systems (I use a SmartShunt for better SOC calculation), they are built from good devices and very cost-effective, and there is immense support available over the net.

Agreed. The information now seems to be kind of conflicting at best. The manual of the 5000 has no mention but does show pictures as you wrote earlier. The manual of the 2000 still tells you that you need additional cables if you scale beyond 100A. Some suppliers of de cable sets on the internet still specify the max amount of units per type (like 5x2000, 3x3000 and 2x5000) like Pylontech did when I bought them a couple of years ago.

I guess the rather clear information I used back then is hard to find nowadays. Fact remains that adding 5000’s will seriously increase the short circuit current before breaking. Each unit I think needs 2500A so having 3 or 4 units before fusing is way way way out of spec for a mega fuse (so is 5000A but less is always better :-))

All I can say is that the original (old) documentation explicitly mentioned simple numbers and the cable set as well as the unit has not changed since. 5x US2000, 3x US3000 and 2x US5000 per set. I used 4 x 3x US5000 for a while and decided to mail Pylontech to ask about the Mega versus T topic back then and told them that I have 6 x 2xUS5000 (so not true). They said all good for Mega.

Sorry I can’t be more specific. It’s not a simple topic.

Thanks for this very honest and highly technical feedback! You are pointing out one of the biggest “taboo” topics of DIY solar installations: the Interrupt Rating (AIC) of fuses.

You are 100% right about the short-circuit current Isc. A single US5000 can deliver up to 2000A to 4000A during a dead short. Put 3 or 4 of them in parallel, and your system can potentially dump over 10000A instantly.

Standard MEGA fuses are usually rated for a maximum interrupting capacity of 2000A or 3000A. If a massive short occurs, a MEGA fuse might physically vaporize, but the resulting plasma arc can keep conducting current. To safely extinguish a 10000A+ arc at 48V, industrial Class T fuses (with a 20000A+ AIC rating) or NH00/NH1 fuses should theoretically be mandatory on these systems. Yet, as you said, almost everyone (and even Pylontech support when pushed) says “it’s fine with a MEGA” because they focus on continuous rating rather than catastrophic fault clearing.

Your story about emailing Pylontech is hilarious and shows exactly how we all have to navigate between blurry manufacturer manuals, legacy specs, and hard electrical physics.

At the end of the day, this perfectly illustrates our point: as we scale up these multi-pack low-voltage systems, we rapidly exit the “plug-and-play consumer” realm and enter complex industrial grid engineering.

Thanks again for this great exchange, it’s exactly why these forum discussions are so valuable!

I have a pack of 8 (eight) Pylontechs. US5000 combined with US2000, totaling about 20kW capacity.
I’ve had a failure - well kind of - because of me, when trying to design a “bullet proof” algorithm for avoiding high voltages of unballanced batteries - just like you’ve presented in your case.
At some point a battery has thrown a high voltage error. Just that battery with overvoltage and/or error had lit his red led and was excluded by the master from the stack.
In Cerbo, from 8/0 batteries (good/bad modules) the master reported 7/1 and also adjusted accordingly the total capacity.
The battery in error just disabled it’s charging FET and remained in that state, also contributing to consumption as the discharge FET was ON.
After resolving the software situation, not having enough patience, on the run, I’ve just powered off only the battery with error and then powered it back after a few seconds.
The master reported a communication error for about 10 seconds and then all returned to normal and the battery that was “live” disconnected started to complete it’s charging, this time the software managing its attempts to overvoltage by properly reducing the charging voltage AND current.
In this moment, the Cerbo’s scripts for Pylontechs are incomplete and doesn’t cover all situation, proof being this situation.
After properly adding some additional protections in those scritps, now all is OK.

The situation with problem.
At first yellow line, the overvoltage on the high cell, on the problematic battery. You can see how, because of the battery with error the deltaV remained big, as that battery was not charged anymore, but it still reported its min/max cell voltages and its min cell voltage being the smallest from the entire pack. The others continued to balance, proof being the high cell voltage slowly reducing.
Second yellow line, live power off/on on the “problematic” battery. You can see how it resumes charging and finally, the entire pack settled at less than 30mV deltaV.

Some monitoring stats from today…

Points proven:

  1. Charging and ballancing can be adjusted properly and automatically, no matter how many modules you have and how much unballanced they are. After some time, all become fully charged and balanced, after only one complete cycle.
  2. In Pylontech’s case, you can lively disconnect and/or connect additional batteries and the master does its job. Even if the master loose comms with the rest - oxidizing case you talked about - the batteries continue to function, Cerbo doesn’t disconnect the inverter, the whole system just transform itself into a “dumb” communicationless system. Only when the Cerbo looses comms with the master, it shutdowns the inverter with BMS lost error, but this case will be the same no matter how many batteries you have.

I kind of took the reply from Pylon as a “we’re in a supported state as long as I stick to the 2xUS5000 setup”. I ended up with 8 sets of 2xUS5000C. All 8 cable sets have 125A MEGA fuses.

Back to the original question. Not sure there’s a right answer. Adding cabling will add complexity will add things that can go wrong. Still not so sure I would spec 4xUS5000C connected with only one set of cables that can handle 125A peak load just because my system is configured to only charge/invert with 100A. First of all, that’s assuming everyone knows how to properly set that up. And second, that’s assuming all remote VE-BUS system updates come back online with all these settings restored :slight_smile:

Since we were talking about US5000, the manual of US2000 is kind of irrelevant. And so is “but it used to be different”.

Thats correct, and why i used an ETI NH00 gBat 100A with 50kA AIC. But im sure theres also people saying “thats overkill”, just as theres the " MegaOTO is ok for that" party.

Nonetheless, doesnt help the cabling thats infront of it, but you cant have everything.

And personally i think having everything mounted in an enclosure, with the cables not exposed, is a neat solution. Like every proper electrical cabinet is supposed to be. Unlike many 16/32kWh battery packs on coasters, that then use flying leads to a wall mounted lynx or something. Which of the two protects the cabling better against damage? Because first and foremost, i dont even want to create a shortcircuit, by using cable sleeves, ties, grommets. But with some installs you get the feeling that just because theres a fuse, theres no need to avoid a shortcircuit anymore.

Sorry for the rant. I hope you find a solution that fits you