Mountain cabin in Romania

3 x Quattro 15KVA
1 x Tauro ECO 50kw (limited to 1:1 ratio)
50KW - Canadian Solar 440W N-type panels
30kw LiFePO4 storage (Pytes V5 heated units, capacity will be doubled soon)
1 x 48v DC Generator for worse-case when really bad weather to power lights

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Very impressive system, such a neat installation, how long did it take to get the system installed? Now the system is up and running are you pleased with the overall performance and is there anything you would have done differently?

Hi Tony.

A little more than a week because we had to build even the little hut and its foundation from scratch.

Not to mention we got snowed it and had to wait for emergency services at the very end. But lool at the bright side. We had full bank of batteries :laughing:

If I would do anything different, hell yeah. On such jobs, like this end of line customer, it is mandatory to fit a smartmeter for a few weeks to measure voltages, consumption and patterns. Here customers electrician claimed grid was ‘sometimes’ and issue. Turned out one phase never goes above 180V, so we ended up hooking a Multiplus as charger only. To charge banks and get out of deadlock of one of the good phases. Leason learned for sure.

To be able to charge with such a poor mains voltage of 180V or even less, take a look at the Eltek FlatPack2 chargers. These have a very wide input voltage range and can be installed in 19’ cabinets … you can regulate the charging voltages with the Smartpack and, and, and …

These Eltek chargers can then also be operated perfectly with a normal AVR generator

https://www.eltek.com/products/flatpack2-483000-he/

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Sounds like you had a bit of an adventure. I’m very impressed with what you have accomplished despite the issues you encountered.

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I just ordered 4 pcs there. If you are right you have a whiskey on me :wink:

Super … on holiday then :slight_smile: :+1:
But you need a Smartpack to get a Modbus/Ethernet connection to make all the settings via the browser. There is also a workaround to integrate without Smartpack but I’m out of that :wink:

Have ordered the whole shabang :slight_smile:

5 x 2KW units and the Module/Controller. Will arrive in two days.

Will post some pictures when in place. If it doesn’t work send me an address for you :joy:

If nothing else … throw the money in the air :moneybag: :moneybag: :moneybag:

The technical possibilities will literally overwhelm you. :open_mouth:

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The unavoidable question: how’s the WiFi in the metal box doing ? :laughing:

:smile::smile: One too many times that happened. 4G this time in a router.

Hi Steffen.

Can’t thank you enough for the tip on Eltek Flatpack. It works like magic! I’ll post a few pictures how it is temporarily setup and how well it does even with network being at almost US voltage standard than EU (it should be 230V here for anyone not getting the joke :slight_smile: )

You are a superstar!




:+1: that makes me happy :slight_smile: … yes yes the Eltek go like hell :+1:

Nice Voltages … :laughing:

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Just out of curiosity, because I might need something similar for a project…
Are these chargers more expensive than a MultiPlus II 48V 5kVA?
I would really appreciate any cost details you could share with us.

The MultiPlus unfortunately can’t handle such low voltages. At 180V it will go into fault state. I have attempted to fix the issue in exactly the same way. Fitted a Multi on the phase that seemed healthier and tried to use it as charger only. Unfortunately it couldn’t handle it. Activating the Weak AC input feature made it worse. It halved it’s output even when grid was over 195v.

This Eltek unit here in Romania was delivered in 3 days and price was roughly 2000 euros. It’s a beast so far. Even at 138v we get on avarage 6kw out of the network.

Being such a big fan Victron I can’t understand why the 180V is enforced even in charger mode and no grid code requirement. This makes it useless in remote locations like these. Place where Victron could shine and be a market leader.

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In domeniul telecom se folosesc la greu surse modulare de 48v de tipul celei de la Eltek.
Totul e sa gandesti “outside the box” si sa stii si alte domenii unde se folosesc aceste tensiuni si atunci se deschide un intreg alt orizont de unde poti sa alegi.
Eu am gasit la un moment dat pe ebay, second, la preturi de pana in 300-400 euro sursa de 48V/3kW.

Eu am gasit in Ilfov reprezentant de a lor. Un domn Ion, foarte de treaba. Asta a fost noua si de 9kw-ish la 10K RON. Auzi daca nu te superi da-mi contactul tau, mai colaboram pe una alta.

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La fel ca userul de aici, fara spatiu intre nume si prenume, la gmail. :slight_smile:

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I had a victron orion charger that was specified from ~90 to ~280v ac.

It was connected behind a transfer switch , one input was my 110v generator, the other the german 230v grid.

Maybe i can find a picture or number somewhere, kicked it out because i needed the space for a larger multiplus.

Orion is a DC - DC charger, no? Here we have poor AC on one side.