Long distance smart meter - What are the best options?

Hello fellow Victron enthusiasts.

Have a question which I am sure someone here has already done. We have a use case where there is a PV inverter quite far away from Cerbo unit. What is the best choice for smartmeter (must be capable of external 5A CT’s) to either connect over network or we have the option to run CAT6/7 all the way to Cerbo.

We currently use some Carlo Gavazzi - EM 330 for other installations which work great but limited to RS to USB adaptor range.

Any input from the field welcome!

Have a great one!

Hi whats the distance? RS 485 can do a few 100m with the right cable

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Hi Marc. Aproximately 220m.

That should not be an issue with the correct wiring for rs485

It can go up to 1200m

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Ok, and which would bw then your meter of choice here given we need big external CTs also. It has to have adjutable CT ration.

That i dont know :blush:

:grin:

Hello,
you can convert RS to ethernet and connect it to a transparent bridging (from few meters to many kilometers), and at the other side ethernet to RS.

Equipment A----RS–Ethernet—radio bridge 5,4 GHz — wave link ------ radio bridge 5,4 GHz—ethernet---- RS-------Equipment B
I use it fot industrial site. We encapsulate the RS frame in an Ethernet frame. You can cross 40 kms with big system, 6 kms with a small system for 300/500 bucks.

Alain
Network Architecture and Field Engineer

Interesting! Would it too much to ask for a model for the RS to Ethernet equipment you have used?

Thank you!

The EM530 is officially supported.

Yes, but how do you make it work at over 200m without zigbee adaptors? This doesn’t feature ethernet as far as I understand. We have two already in the setup connected through USB to RS adaptors. However, this third PV inverter is really far away.

Long distance smart meter - What are the best options?

Sorry if I’ve misunderstood your goal, but if you’re looking to establish a long-distance internet connection, I wanted to share an approach I’ve used that might be helpful, especially if you have a smart meter with an Ethernet connection that can connect to a switch.

Like this one.

While my particular setup involves a different scenario, the underlying principle remains the same. I’ve successfully used a fiber optic switch to create a network connection across a significant distance – in my case, a 500-meter run ​u​p my ​field – which provides me with internet access and access to my Cerbo GX etc.

I realize that a direct cable run might not be practical for your situation, but I wanted to offer this as a potentially viable solution based on my experience.

Dave

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We are using a pair of ETH gateways to regulate 10kVA transformer in neighbours house over existing glas cable. Counter is ABB with ct and Modbus RTU. The devices are cheap and work reliable for years.
https://eckstein-shop.de/WaveShare-Industrial-Serial-Server-with-POE

Hello,
You can test it with a low price interface like that :

Tell me if this type of product can help you. We can discuss about this type of interface.
I don’t test it at this time.

We used Moxa box, but the price is high …
Alain

This is Amazons fake copy of a waveshare device.
My last post here, links the single channel version for DIN rail mount. As this works fine for me, I assume the 4 channel version will do so.

When running a CAT6/7 cable, which is shielded, is an option, you are not limited to ethernet connected active Equipment.
As you could use a RS45-to-analog-Terminal Adapter and run RS485 signal direct from an EM530 accross that distance, without active converters in between.