Generator runtime / status, externally started

A generator can be started by the system, but most generators can also be started manually at the generator.
If done so, the system will detect the generator (ACin), could we also add the run time, when dectected this way? and / or even a new status of the generator “externally started”.

If you have a digital input connected and set to ‘generator’ I believe that this is the behavior. I know at least for guimods, but not 100% with stock firmware. I’m sure someone can confirm or deny. @guystewart ?

Hi @HaroldO,

Logging generator runtime shouldn’t require using the built in generator start stop feature.

The AC-input needs to be correctly assigned to “generator” (as opposed to grid).

Are you finding that this isn’t working as expected?

Could you please post your VRM URL and I will have a look.

Thanks Guy.
https://vrm.victronenergy.com/installation/49329/dashboard

Note, my Genertor is not digitaly connected!
Look at august 19th from ca 14h10
ACin is detected, but runtime of that day stays 0

Hi @HaroldO,
I dug into this a bit further and the situation is not as straight forward as I thought it was.

The good news is there are active and open development tickets that are working on this. The bad news is it doesn’t look like they are ready to do what you want yet.

I know what you’re asking seems like a very simple element, but the overall generator control system is now quite complex, and while the runtime is working in some cases where there is a digital input, or when its been auto-started by the GX, other cases such as external autostart, and manual starts, are still getting included.

Here are some of the visible relevant tickets;
these are public to see, but please do not comment on them;

Thanks Guy!
I will be patient and looking forward to see and test :wink:

Hi @HaroldO, the issues Guy mentioned are completed and included in the lastest v3.50~28 beta release. In short:

Connected genset controller (via Modus or VE.Can):

The total runtime is now always synced to the one from the controller. And for current, daily and service counter, the genset status reported by the genset controller is used to improve run time tracking.

Relay-controlled generator:

With this variant, the run time tracking can now be improved using a digital input on the GX device. We also discussed using the the AC input reading for that, but – as Guy already guessed – this would have introduced high complexities. From our experience, most generator controllers support a potential-free output for engine status readout. And if not, a small helper relay at the AC output of the genset can be used.

I hope that meets your needs.

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@thomasinaz Since v3.50~28, that’s the case now, yes.

@ptrenz Thanks!
Look nice and good!
But not a solution for me, as I still use a CCGX :wink:
But let’s keep it like this, in the long term I will (need to) move to a newer device!

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