Cluster, Cluster - when large Victron microgrid systems?

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could I have the cluster docs and firmware please to play with :nerd_face:

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What exactly are you referring to?

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Hey, I had just watched a video with Guy on talking about the new firmware coming out soon where you don’t need to use VE.Bus to sync paralleled Inverters on a big system, he called it Clustering.

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OMG..!!! @guystewart Watching your video re clustering with Smart Energy lab and loving it..! We have 2 x 10KVA Quattro and are off grid, having added two EV’s I need to expand the battery and solar and this could be perfect..! My thinking build a second power room with another 50KWH of battery and 15KW of solar, move one of the Quattro’s and now I have higher availability and amazing expandability. Do you need early adopters..? Any chance you are also looking into bidirectional EV charging..?

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Hi,

This video referred to is here - https://youtu.be/bgWFrf973l8

There is a lot more info coming, much more detailed technical specifications, implementation details, limitations and feature roadmap for this exciting new development.

I am in the Netherlands now to get hands on experience with a site that is running these microgrid clusters right now.

Then next week will be representing again at the METS trade show in Amsterdam, which is one of our key yearly events.

What that means is waiting a few weeks for all the information that is ready to be made public to be released.

To set appropriate expectations, while the ambition and potential is very large, initial release will be for only a subset of those applications. Still very exciting tech.

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You are ace Guy! :partying_face::flexed_biceps: I think my knees are shaking :joy::nerd_face: can’t wait!!!

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I’ve just watched the same thing. This sounds like an incredible development. It left me with two speciffic questions, I’m sure I’ll have more when more details arrive:

  1. Is it intended that the 15K and 30K Multi HS19 inverters will be able to form part of this cluster alongside 12, 24 and 48v based systems?
  2. From the way you described it arround 8 mins 40 seconds I wasn’t completly clear if this is for off-grid only or wether it can still be tied to the nationwide grid safely.

My thoughts have turned to trying to elegantly integrate my 12v RV system with the 48V house 3 phase system and then a mluti HS19 system based arround a second life EV battery. Very exciting.

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Indeed more information is coming, but those two are both quick answers.

  1. For now this is a VE.Bus only feature. So not launching with support for RS or HS products.
  2. This is an off grid only feature, once the firmware is changed the feature depends on being able to adjust the voltage and frequency of the microgrid, so it will not work with an external grid formed sine wave from a supply that is not part of the microgrid.
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Do you have any idea when was released to the market the Victron’s first inverter/charger? Probably the initial Multiplus?
In another order of ideas, is there any Victron roadmap for its products for these 50 years?