Always shows bulk

hi all , would greatly appreciate your help

victron smart solar controller 100/50

i recently upgraded from lead acid to 4 x Eco Worthy 12v lithium LiFe PO4 100ah non Bluetooth batteries

i changed battery settings in the controller menu to Smart Lithium lIe po4

i experimented in the Smart shunt app and changed charged voltage 14.4 and 13.2

i still have the same issue where the controller app always shows BULK never changing to absorb or float

i have individually disconnected each battery and each measure 13.2v this leads me to believe they are charged

also the Yield also leads to to believe the batteries are charged (i could be wrong)

again many thanks

First off, the charged voltage on the shunt must be 0.1 to 0.2V lower than absorption on the mppt so set this to 14.0 or 14.1V.

Lithium batteries are supplied only about 50% full so with 400Ah with a 50A MPPT this is going to take many hours to get them charged. You do not state what solar power you have or what charge current you are seeing. 13.2V is not a full lithium battery, that would be 13.5 to 13.6V. Float at 13.5V holds the battery just below full. I believe you just need to keep charging until the charging voltage gets to 14.2V. If you are using power at the same time this could take several days. Lithium will stay in bulk until the last 10 to 15 minutes unlike lead acid.

hi

i think i was getting over anxious , my first delve into the world of lithium!!! , these were not new batteries and had been stood for sometime unused. Late on today , measured off load, the batteries had reached 13.44v which i believe is not far off full charge, so hopefully in the next few days all will be well . i am seeing full charge current of 50A when in full sun however power is also been used other than for battery charging.

again many many thanks with much appreciation

Well things never got better

having spent considerable time changings settings etc i concluded likely cell inbalance , following a guide on youtube i opened the battery ready to sort this …

insidethe “BATTERY” i found nothing like on youtube

FAKE

cheap nasty unbranded BMS

floating in mid air temperature sensor (only 1 should be 2)

and the worse was a pack of lithium polymer batteries !!!

no wonder i had issues

thanks again

I am sorry to hear this. I always suggest that you buy lithium batteries with Bluetooth as a minimum so at least you know the cell voltages. I know that this would not have prevented a fake battery being supplied, but is useful for future replacement.

Could you post some photos of the battery and what you found inside? Hopefully you can find a quality solution.

Reminds me somewhat of my own experience with Antigravity batteries.

$100 worth of poorly assembled no-name AliExpress components stuck into a cheap case with typos in the labeling and sold for $800+. Grifters abound!

some photos

i would be interested if you can spot anything on the labels thats wrong

Just looking at product images online shows a clear difference in the labelling, not that it would be obvious to anyone.

thanks

i would be grateful if you could point out the differences

thanks

i know the wording is different but this is not a new battery maybe a year old

Similar but different. To someone who didn’t have any reference you wouldn’t know.
But this is a topic that’s really beyond the scope of the community.

ok sorry

No stress. Maybe just warn people where you got them.

Jiabaida BMS board. Crazy - I would not have known without seeing the genuine Ecoworthy that this was a bad counterfeit.

Thanks for sharing.