UK Demand Flexibility Sevice Resumes 27th November - We need export scheduling in VRM

Dear @dfaber & the Victron team -

Please, please, please can we have some simple scheduling for export added into VRM, along with a simple button for manual export.

This is why it’s become an important feature request for your UK domestic home based customers -

Last Thursday 21st November, the UK’s National Energy System Operator (NESO) released the following statement -

As from the 27th November, NESO are resuming the Demand Flexibility Service (also known as Savings Sessions) across the whole of the UK and is open to all energy providers.

Previously there have been approximately 12 Savings Sessions across the winter months between November to March for the last 2 years. (For context - we earned approximately £180 from exporting during the 12 sessions last winter, manually using the “Sell” button within the DESS sub menu, which you have recently removed)

In the above announcement, it states that NESO are now going to be running these Savings Sessions all year round and not just a few sessions over the winter months. The trial is over, it’s going mainstream.

Previously, we have received lucrative payment for exporting during the peak evening times (16:00-19:00) from between ½ an hour to 1½ hours.

We really could do with having scheduling export options as this will be completely independent of your own Dynamic ESS. Or at least please reinstate the “Buy” and “Sell” buttons.

Many thanks
Jim

It won’t be that good this year the rate is going to be 22p kWh not £2 kWh as it was last year. :worried:
At that rate I probably won’t bother.

@GUMPY, it’s not just the savings sessions we need control over export for. Yesterday Octopus Energy gave us a free 2 hour slot, it was 7:00-9:00, so was able to fully charge our batteries and several other things for a total consumption of 24 kWh. Previous free periods have been 13:00-14:00 when we have had to export from our batteries first to be able to take advantage of charging them up again for free.

Its shortsighted of Victron not to have some form of scheduled or manual forced export system.
My system is from SolaX not Victron, I have to do mine manually over the SolaX app as there is no scheduled forced export. There used to be but it was removed 18 months or so ago.
Last two nights have been good on Agile 30kWh dragged from the grid at a cost of minus 46p😎

i did request such a feature just over a year ago, dought it will happen. If they did a SOC limit on the Discharge would be nice that below a threshold it would revert to the users default gridpoint setting. @guystewart i’m asking again lol yes you have the DESS system but a lot of us have come to victron for control we want to know the ins and the outs and are not willing to give control to anyone. i hope i speak for others in that statment but me as a user and the controller of my system i’ll never give anyone means to control it as they see fit.

So i used keep batteries charged yesterday as the times are complelty different to my node red flow which was 1300 - 1400 and i could not be bothered to rewrite it as its setup to do a forced discharge before the session and then charge druing the time something like that would be grate so it would just automagically do it. But that said if they drop the session to 22p im not interested as extra wear on the batteries with no finacial compensation to there eventual replacement. But that amount hasent been disclosed yet i believe sometime this week we will find out but Ofgem dont seem to be consumer based IMHO.

It was disclosed in an email on the 21st from my supplier (Octopus Energy) asking me to write to consumer affairs @ofgem saying how paltry the price was and could they look at it again.

J

Yeah mate had the same as I’m with Octopus, I messaged Gary Does Solar said it hasn’t been fixed yet said the doc will becoming out this week, but still stands if it’s 22p poke it, it’s amazing a regulator is so out of step with consumers but so on point with big energy mmmm :thinking: