SOC droping from around 60% to 10% very rapidly

I’m looking for help, my system that has been running for 9 years satisfactorily has just started behaving starngley and I’m trying to work out why. The System is 4 x 90Ah 12v Victron smart batteries in sereis and BMS, 2 Multi’s in parallel and a colour control.

I’m running DESS and the battery discharges accoring to schedule and then for the last 2 days for no apparent reason the SOC from the victron Smart BMS and Multi in the system drops to around 10%. The system then says it needs to charge, so starts drawing power to return the batery to at least the minimum SOC or the DESS SOC.

See the attached Graph of SOC and DC current and voltage.

Any Advice where to look or what the problem might be would be appreciated.

For better understanding you have to examine how the battery voltage and current behaves when the SOC passes from 60 to 10%. It could be that your battery has a problem (wear ?). Examine if the DC connections between batteries and inverter warm up more than before.

As @molenman says you need to look at the data for the few hours where this happens not for a week, it is too coarse to see the detail, plot a 6 hour data window or finer. The Multiplus SOC is calculated from current in and out so you need to confirm what was flowing out during that time. It could be DESS pushing a discharge.

Thank you will check the connections but im expecting the battery is on its way out.

Thank you,

attached is a more detailed output of current and SOC for one of the events.

The doesn’t seem to be anything out of the ordinary happening on a voltage and ampage but your veiw would be appreciated.

Your batteries are in parallel so you have 360Ah of battery capacity.

Looking at that chart, at 07:00 for some reason the SOC dropped from 60 to 0% so the batteries started charging. After just under an hour of charging at 100A the batteries reached absorption voltage of 14.2V, so end of bulk, so the Multiplus SOC jumped to 95%. I assume you have the battery monitor set to go to 95% at end of bulk. So the amp hours recharged agrees with the 60% SOC.

The drop to 0% SOC was nothing to do with discharge.

What I can not answer is why this happened. Some of the Victron battery monitors reset to 0% if they loose input voltage so the battery monitor function in the Multiplus could have developed a fault pr it could be a genuine loss of voltage.

What exact BMS do you have, Victron call.most of them Smart. Is it a Lynx. Do you have a SmartShunt or a BMV battery monitor. If you do, see if they have a settings “SOC on reset” and if they do change this to “Keep SOC”.

Thank you.

The BMS is a Victron blue Solar VE Bus BMS.

Glad you agree that it was at 60% and yes absorption starts at 95% 14.2v

Why the BMS should suddenly drop from 60% to 0% baffles me too. There are no accessible settings.

I’ve just checked the wiring on the BMS and will see what happens having remade the 2 connections 1 to the battery the other to the colour control.

The VE Bus BMS does not report battery SOC, the battery SOC is coming from the Multiplus and there is no setting for SOC on reset. As noted above, you may have an intermittent failure in the Multiplus, I can not advise further other than checking all wires. It will also be out of warranty if it is 9 years old. One thing you could consider is adding a SmartShunt to the system to do the SOC measurement and connect that to your GX device and choose that as your battery monitor. You will then have something reliable for your SOC.

I have 2 multi’s in parallel, would it be worth configuring the secondary multi to be the master and visa versa? I’m assuming the Master unit calculates / provides the SOC to the system in the BMS doesn’t.

That could be worth a try, parallel is something I have not done before.

So I tried swapping the master Multi, it made no difference.

However about 3 days before my problems occurred I updated the firmware on the multi despite all the advise to leave alone on a working system.

I reverted the firmware back to an older instance 433 and all seems to be fine now.

Thankyou for your help and support.

That I can not explain but glad that you are sorted.