I installed a touchscreen on my kitchen wall as a quick view display showing the remote console but with other webpages available like my Node-red set-up, car charger etc. , it all works pretty ok. It’s running off a Raspberry Pi basically to provide a web browser.
I am planning on installing Home assistant on this Pi but it seems that also having a web browser to display Remote console (and be able to change settings) is not possible.
Is there a way to have Home assistant and Remote console with my single Pi ?
I’m also playing around with Home Assistant at the moment. I don’t think it is possible to have a web header on a Home Assistant installation - one must always access it from a browser, even as a localhost on the network. For example, I have set up HAOS on a Synology virtual machine, which I can access locally from another computer, and can also access from a second Synology virtual machine running Windows. So I think if you want Home Assistant, and then a console, you might have to use two Raspberry Pis. I’ve just bought an very inexpensive Intel N100 NUC to dedicate to HAOS to mess around with a local voice recognition assistant
Local voice recognition is exactly what I 'm installing HA for ! To follow the tutorial I have started I need the ability to install add-ons for that so apparently that means a HA OS install or a supervised HA over linux install which might let me have a normal web browser as well as HA but I’m afraid that install will be way above my skill level. I’m going to give it a go anyway though.
I will take a look at Synology as i would like to have access to all my stuff, particularly the Openevse car charger when I’m away and I haven’t found a solution for that yet.
Are you running venus os on the same pi in a virtual box? That might be tricky. If you are running a cerbo or other dedicated venus device separate from the home assistant, a simple solution would be to add a webpage view to the home assistant dashboard. Set the webpage navigation to the local ip address of the venus device. You would then have full access to home assistant and the venus os console on the same display.
Hi @thomasinaz , I think it still means having two machines - one running the Home Assistant OS, and one running an OS capable of displaying the Home Assistant dashboard, though I’d be delighted to be proved wrong. I like the idea of adding the Venus OS console to the HA dashboard - didn’t cross my mind. @usernamepasswordbs, I tried the Synology virtual machine route since I have one running continuously as a backup/file server and creating virtual machines was an easy way of dipping my toes into the HA OS world. However I’d prefer a more low-power standalone solution, and there is another problem with a VM on synology - it starts to get a little esoteric, passing through the audio in and out - though I do have a cheap USB sound card plugged into the synology as a stop-gap.
@SimonWad yes that is correct, in regards to both posts above. I have venus os running on the cerbo gx, and I have HAOS running on a pi5. I have a cheap 7" tablet as a wall display, with the home assistant android app pinned on the display. The cerbo console is set as one of the HA dashboard views. You would then also have full access to venus os AND HAOS from any web capable device on the lan network.
@thomasinaz I have another question: I don’t really have a preference for what OS gets installed on the Pi as long as I can use HA voice add-ons and that I still have the Remote console, Node-red and my Openevse pages viewable. Can I have all that with a straight forward HAOS install ? I believe from what I’ve read that a browser is not possible without a complicated ‘supervised’ install so can I have more than one webpage viewable on my HA screen ? Also, one more thing, if all that was possible with a straight forward HAOS install, could I even access the Node-red and car charger “buttons” remotely through HA ? That would be great if I could.
@usernamepasswordbs I’ll try to answer what I can, but I’m certainly no expert at home assistant, though I have learned quite a bit over the last year since I started using it.
With HAOS you are able to install any of the available add-ons and integrations, as well as HACS integrations without having to setup additional containers or complicated things. It just works. There is also a node red addon available, and a HACS node red companion which makes the process of integrating node red sensors into HA sensors very simple.
As far as browser access, any web capable device connected to the same lan network, will have full access without any additional setup.
You can add multiple web pages to the HA dashboard. You have almost limitless possibilities if you are up for a little bit of a learning curve.
You can also bridge the venus mqtt with the home assistant, and open up the venus system to home assistant. I rarely even use the venus console anymore, my HA dashboard is just more user friendly for me and I can place what information I want, where I want it.
I’ll try to post up a few pictures of my HA to give you an idea.
Thanks for your replies, I’m trying to decide whether to ditch the HA supervised over Debian install that I have already started or wipe the SD card and start again with a HAOS install, probably I will go with that as the supervised is probably out of my league. On HA dashboard can you have a standard looking Victron Remote Console page (just because I’m used to it) ?
Edit, I mean can I have the Remote console being a practically full screen thing via HA ? That’s the way my Pi browser set-up is and I like to be able to glance across the room and see the general state of things and the useful stuff on Remote console is fairly visible on my 10" screen. Sorry for the barrage of questions !
@usernamepasswordbs yes you can have the console on the HA dashboard, below is an example.
If you decide to ditch the supervised install, do a full backup of the home assistant first. Download the backup to ypur pc, then wipe the sd card and install HAOS. On the onboarding screen of home assistant select ‘restore from backup’ and you won’t have to start all over from scratch.
On a side note, I would HIGHLY recommend that you switch to an SSD. Home Assistant is known to destroy sd cards after a while as it writes a lot of data to the drive for logs and history etc. Also a good idea to setup nightly backups in HA so when you do run into problems it’s much easier to get the system back up and running.
@usernamepasswordbs yes you can have the remote console full screen. It can be scaleable so it will be full screen on most any device that you use to connect to HA dashboard.
I have literally only just done the debian install so nothing on HA to lose yet. I can start again without losing anything much.
How do I use an ssd with the PI ? I have an adaptor which takes an ssd and plugs into a usb port, perhaps with that ?
I saw this representation in one of Andy’s videos. And now here.
I have no idea whre to find this. I included the gui-v2 in homassistant as proposed here. But I would like to have the representation as in your screenshot.
@thomasinaz I wiped Debian from the SD and reflashed HaOS again only to re-find on searching the internet again that having a display and the Ha server on one device seems undoable, or at least it’s not clear whether it’s doable or not for a noob like myself. I’ve come full circle ! I’ll be reflashing Debian before lunchtime unless you tell me I’m wrong ! I think the bit I missed is that your screen is an android tablet so web-capable in itself whereas my screen is just a screen.
@usernamepasswordbs I’ve been using HAOS from my first day of home assistant, so unfortunately I don’t know anything about supervised or any other methods of running home assistant, except to say that I am aware that there are certain limitations to certain methods. What those limitations are, I cannot comment on.
I did find the following using google search:
Key points about Home Assistant Supervised:
Full functionality:
Provides access to all Home Assistant features, including add-ons and the supervisor, just like the Home Assistant OS
With that information, it appears that you should be able to use a browser on your screen to access both the remote console and home assistant, or home assistant with the remote console as one of the dashboard views.
