Please can someone from Victron update us on plans to get G100/2 compliance.
TIA
Hi Jack, historically we havenât seen much comment on certification plans on the community.
You may be better off contacting your area sales manager - contact details on the main site.
The community is rarely the source of plans or roadmaps.
Brilliant, Cheers Nick. I have reached out to the UK sales guys so will report back.
As expected have heard nothing back from either of the Victron UK Sales Managers. Might be of benefit for Victron if they actually communicate and build a relationship with Installers.
Hi @JackAspeyEnergy,
Regional certification is a bit of an ever green topic and source of frustration on all sides.
There is often imperfect information, and not a clear answer.
Iâll reach out to the UK team myself as well to see if there is anything to report, but itâs also possible there isnât a clear statement of the situation yet.
The decision has been made not to gain G100/2 compliance. The decision was made based on our historic sales numbers prior to G100/2, the engineering time required and the commercial reward.
We do of course have G98 & G99. If feeding in to the Grid is required then the most popular option is to use the 5KVa models, configfure to Grid code G98 restricting the feed in and load out to 3.68Kw.
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Hi Nigel, appreciate the clarification although not what we and most UK folks would want to hear.
We believe one off the biggest selling points for Victron is the ability for full house back up. However 5kW of inverter power simply isnât enough in 95% of instanceâs.
12/10/8 kW of Inverter power with G100/2 export limitation is what is needed.
Customers being able to export âsellâ back to the grid reduces the payback on systems significantly.
Even on bigger grid tied ESS we will now only be able to install as much as the export allows. Thus reducing the number of units installed and sold.
This decision makes Victron a very difficult sell in the UK grid tied market.
Is G100/2 really that much more work than G100/1 ?
Hi Guy, Appreciate the reply. Please see my reply to Vincent below. Hoping we can get Victron to change there stance on this
If you need a solution for g100 in the UK please reach out to www.offgrdpro.co.uk. They have a g100 solution for victron that has been through witness testing and allows for compliance - albeit with extra cost.
For Victron this is chicken and egg I guess. No surprise the installs are low as the product isnât compliant. 48/5000 doesnât give the ability to give whole of house protection as it doesnât support 100amp passthrough .
Very disappointing to read that Victron is not going to update their firmware for G100/2. Arenât they likely to get similar requirements in other countries too, so functionality like this will need to be added eventually?
Has anyone used node-red to fill in the missing bits of G100/2? Given that the G100/1 stuff works (or at least has a certificate), the bit that is missing is the state machine for repeated excursions. Node-red should be able to handle that (I think), which should make a compliant system.
There is a difficulty in that the standard fast-track process with SGI3 only allows for type-certification, not compliance by other means, so one would have to do the next grade of application using Form A2-3 (âLess than 50kWâ) on p7 of https://connections.nationalgrid.co.uk/downloads/24747
If no-one has done the node-red work for this, Iâll have a go. But it seems reasonably likely that someone has already done, or at least started, this work.
This would be much better implemented in the MPII firmware, but if Victron arenât going to do it then weâll have to make-do. Of course if they opened up the firmware code we could help fix it there, which would be a better solution.
That should be http://www.offgridpro.co.uk
Depends on the house. The 50A passthrough is sufficient here. The only thing thatâs not on the backup is the EV charger (because itâs a big load and charging one battery from another doesnât usually make much sense).