ESS @ Mobile home?

Hi.

I need to reconfigure my system for my RV.
At the moment, i’m running ESS.
Due to law, I cannot use ESS anymore.
I have to use a blue CEE 16A plug. Fixed connections are not allowed. And no feedin is permitted.

Hub 2 or Hub 3 assistants are mostly deprcated.

If I configure the system as a simple power inverter, it will charge the battery from grid. Because of high energy prices, the batterys should not charged from grid in any case. Grid is only backup and for peak power usage, but switch over to the grid should be done very fast before an overload error or heavy flicker occours.

What would you recommend?

But you could use the ESS Option… you can prevent the feed-in to 0.

Otherwise only a ‘virtual switch’ VS in VE Configure would be possible … Then the multi would only connect if your definitions SOC , load etc. apply …

You could also use solar and wind prioritisation.
https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/Solar_&_Wind_Priority/en/index-en.html

If you mount a wind turbine on the vehicle and then drive as fast as possible … Just kidding :slight_smile:

Of course a wind turbine / PV would also work if possible …
But that would probably remain on the DC side … i.e. the direct SOC side

Hi.
ESS works fine.
With the AC ignore switch, it takes only a few seconds for grid connect. When the SOC is good, no charging from grid.
If I use an external relay, it takes about 1 minute. The MP2 will perform some internal tests every time.
But if I read the manual, ESS should not used with plugs.
And with ESS, I see some feed-in even if I disabled it. Around 0,2 kWh per day. Feed-in is billed like consumption, 0,6€ per kWh because there is an “always positive” grid meter installed.

The reference ‘without plug’ probably refers to the ‘normal Schuko sockets’ … these can also be plugged in upside down. This cannot happen with your blue CEE. So there is nothing to be said against it.
The very low feed-in must be accepted, as the larger loads must always be levelled out at 400W/s.
But what speaks against the longer connection to the grid?
What do you use in your mobile ?

ESS will always balance on grid, so zero feed in will not happen

Just came along that Topic. Having all the necessary Victron components in my RV I thought about setting them to ESS and I could use the extra solar energie from the MPPT in the house while the RV is just parked in the garden.

Only risk I see if the blue CEE gets unpluged from the RV there could still be power on the socket thats mounted on the car.

But shouldent the LOM setting in the Multi prevent this?

By the way. I have “Solar and Wind priority” active in RV but thats not realy what I want. In case the RV is parked in the garden and the fridge etc. is on. The Multi pulls all that from the grid at night. I want it to only draw from the grid when there is no sun and not enough SoC. Thats why I thought about ESS

Of course, ESS makes perfect sense for you at home. After all, it’s your system … you can do whatever you want with it.
At marinas or camping sites, regenerated power could certainly lead to problems.

Or you can simply use the normal wizard for disconnecting and reconnecting to the grid according to certain specifications … ESS / load etc.

Without mains power, the Multi (immediately) disconnects the connection to the ‘blue CEE’ junction box …

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Depends on the selected grid code.
With some grid codes it will try to support the grid and for that the input keeps connected for 1-2s.
In that time you could touch the contacts of the plug and get shocked.

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Good advice Matthias … but we all lack the respective experience of which grid code does what here …

Of course, you should take a close look at this setting …

Thats true. Guess i can switch off feedback on the GX when travelling.

Not RV, but a 48V LFP home system. Similarly, zero feed-in should be obeyed. Started with ESS assistant, but there is no way to zero feed-in, when a big load (2kW) switches off.
So, I forgot about ESS and followed the directions for Virtual Switch (cannot coexist with ESS).
In VEConfigure, Virtual switch tab, at Usage select dedicated ignore AC input.
Then, in Ignore AC Input (sub)tab, you can set at what conditions the AC in relays will be activated. In my case in high load and/or low SOC. Then, by trial, set the voltage at which the AC in will be disconnected.


As a result, at low SOC conditions (during night, after a cloudy day), the AC in kicks in, with a shawtooth waveform.

Looks to me like “online UPS” functioning…