AC coupling in an off-grid system : How to make sure the on-grid inverter continues producing

Soon I will make an off-grid system with the following equipment :

  1. Fronius Gen24 Symo 10.0
  2. 3 x 48/5000 Multiplus II
  3. 6 x Pylontech US3000
  4. Gerbo GX
    There is no generator, the site has sometimes grid power, but very fluctuating .
    Since the system is off-grid I will connect Fronius to AC Out-1 of the multiplus.

The question is what happens, when batteries are drained and the Multiplus shuts down AC-Out ?

In such a case the system itself is blocked, although the next day sun might be able to fill the batteries.

I am thinking of the following solution : I will put a separate contactor to the loads only. And with the relay from Gerbo I will disconnect the loads before the batteries are drained, let’s say at %20 SOC. So that for next day when the sun comes, the multiplus’ ac-out will still be active to turn on the Fronius inverter.

What do you think ? any suggestions or better ideas ?

Thanks

You could connect your loads to AC OUT 2 and program that like you described.

Or you add a small (or big) MPPT charger to the battery, that will start charging the battery in the morning → the MultiPlus starts → the Fronius can start

Charging the battery with a MPPT is more efficient.

Hi Matthias, thanks alot

there is no room for additional charger, all PV is connected to the Fronius with 600 VDC, therefore it would be additional cost , which customer doesnt want. However what do you mean with AC2 ? I thought AC2 out is only active when there is grid available. As soon as the grid is gone, the loads will also be gone.

You can configure a different behaviour for the AC OUT 2 with VE.config.

For an off-grid system I would always recommend to plan with a small MPPT.
You don’t need much, a MPPT 100/20 with two panels is enough.
That doesn’t need much space and doesn’t add much cost.

Thanks alot,so you mean connect Fronius to ACout-1 and connect the loads to ACout-2, this is a cleaner solution, I will check that.