DC Watts not correct showing, not matching VxA

Yesterday i did the shutdown procedure for the first time on my 3phase Multiplus 2 systeem and disconnected the batteries, reinstalled it and restarted the system.

Today i noticed that the DC Watts provided by the multiplus not match VxA anymore (-8983W | 51.76V | -191A). And it does not match the Watts provided by the smartshunt anymore.

I’ve set the maximum inverter power in ESS on 9000W for a long time and in my opinion it always handles is very well, but now the Amps pulled were higher than normal and i noticed the difference.

What should i do? What could be causing this problem?

measured Watts will not match the VA on the system, this is usually due to the power factor of the load not being 1.0 generally this is not a problem unless the ratio of W/VA is less than 0.8

Correct, but they are asking about the DC power specifically. In the screenshot theres 8983W on DC, but 51,76V times 191A is 9886W, so 903W are missing on the DC side

Inverter efficiency. add on to that, measurement errors and zero power errors. Power in the DC line does not actually come from a multiplication of the dc volts and amps, but seems to be measured as the effective output power of the dc/ac inverter. This is then split between the feed in (another set of measurements from CT’s) and the load side (another set of measurements).

Oké, could be me, but I’ve never noticed this much of a difference between the multiplus and the smartshunt.

Problem is i’ve set the maximum inverter power of 9000W because the Amps on the DC side stays around 175A for not warming up the cables to much (i cannot set a discharge Amp in DVCC). Charge Amp is on 175A.

So i should set the maximum inverter power lower as 9000W? I thought the simple math of VxA=W would be enough :sweat_smile:

Ok, but then that figure is shown in the wrong category

I think it’s a bug in the software:

In the screenshot:

AC=8702W + 298W =9000W

DC=51,76V x 191A =9886W but it shows almost 9000W from the AC

That sounds ok to me. Theres both conversion losses and power factor playing into this.

If you assume that the Multiplus is 95% efficient, and you take 9886W on DC as the base, then on AC you would get 9392VA (Apparent power), with the measured 9000W (Real power) on AC this would mean a power factor of 0.96 which sounds ok (Remember on the AC side VA is not necesarely equal to W)

My issue is just the shown DC power alone

Exactly that

DC is VxA = W

AC is VxA = VA only with powerfactor correction you have W

That’s also my issue.

It shows -8983W instead of -9886W in the DC row.

Reported DC power is almost the same as AC power, in my opinion this can’t be right.

I agree, and there have been several other comments about this.

Really? And it’s still not resolved?

I don’t think that this quirk is very high on the priority list……:expressionless_face: