ChargeVoltage set zero when MultiPlus II connected

hi!

After a complete reset, I configured my Multiplus II with ESS Assistant, ESS Mode 3, for controlling the power output externally. After a hard road to travel, setting the power output works.

BUT as soon as I connect the MPII to the Venus system, the Charge Voltage of all my SmartSolar chragers is set to zero (0) and accordingly they stop charging. This is certainly very counterproductive for a PV system…

A screnshot series of the complete configuration I uploaded here: Setup MultiPlus II ESS Mode 3- brauche Hilfe – Panels, Wechselrichter, Laderegler – Akkudoktor Forum

Does anybody see the reason for the strange behaviour of the system or have another idea how this may be caused or can get solved?

thank you very much!

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oh, sorry, I wasn’t aware of that… here they come:

first the assistant:

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now VEConfigure :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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and the ESS mode:

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Hi @Philippoo

  1. Which battery / BMS do you have? Is this BMS reporting a maximum charge voltage?
  2. What’s the value of /Hub/ChargeVoltage path for the MP2?

Why did you set ESS Mode to External Control?

This is usually only required in very rare situations. Not sure if you then would have to manually set the ChargeVoltage for the MPPTs.

Would try with one of the default modes and see if that already resolves the issue.

Edit: Yeah, according to the documentation, Mode 3 (External control) requires you to manually control Managed Battery Charge-Limits. So, if you don’t set them - they are probably 0.

Hi Alex @alexpescaru !

The BMS is a JK PB connected via CAN, Victron Protocol (don’t know wich Rev, but it appears correctly on the console).

There are different /Hub/ChargeVoltage values:

#288 disappears when I disconnect the MPII from the system. #296 has almost the same objects and values as 288 but remains present when I disconnect the physical MPII. Both have
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So 288 seems to be the MP2.
Set its /Hub/ChargeVoltage to your desired charge voltage. (53.5, maybe).
See then if it’s OK.

@dognose do you know how to set them? which manual do you refer to?

I require mode 3 because I do externally control the power. mode 3 is the only way to do it (took me days to get at least this running).

@alexpescaru I already tried to set /288/Hub/ChargeVoltage but it gets always overwritten by 0 after few seconds… :-/

Which power are you refering to? You can control the Grid-Setpoint in Any mode.
Doing it all the time through mqtt.

Just publish to W/{PortalID}/settings/0/Settings/CGwacs/AcPowerSetPoint

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this is what I am doing. Do you think Mode 2 might work also???

Maybe I am asking a stupid question, but is it normal for your configuration to have the Charger disabled in the VE Configure Charger tab?

It depends, what you mean by “controlling the power”. What do you want to achieve by doing that?

Like, what are you doing different, compared to what the system would do on its own?

@alexpescaru I do not want the MPII to charge from grid. I hope this is the right setting. I changed that, but no influence on the ssolar chargers. they are always set to zero regardless that setting

@dognose I have a system running really fine with a Lumentree, commanded by serial communication. The only thing I got the MPII for is that I require more power. So in easy words I split my setpoint 1:2.5 to Lumentree and MP2

the MP2 should do nothing else than put out power. my control is highly sophisticated including everything I need and much more sophisticated than what the assi could do… (different behaviour on different change of loads, regarding pulsing loads, differently in summer or winter, …)

can you pls tell me what manual/document?!

Well, hard to say how to do it different, without knowing your whole layout / system.

What I would probably do when running two systems parallel: Control one to desired Power (In your case the Lumentree) - and have the Multi automatically adjust for all the remaining / missing power.

If theres a second source, providing - say - 800 Watts of power, the multi will simply see 800 Watt less consumption and just take over the remaining loads.

You could also make this “explicit”, by injecting the Lumen as PV-Inverter in Venus-OS.
(I did that earlier with a second battery / fronius as well)

But yeah, as said without knowing the full system hard to say.

The one you just recently linked.

First you should check on the control of enable/disable chargers. Disabling charging will most likely also disable the mppts.

You want to avoid the multis charging, and that document says

The power flowing to the batter (or more precise: to DC system attached to the Multi) is equal to the AC-In power minus the AC-Out power.

Hence, you control the multis charging through that, not through the “Disable charging” flag.

Or in other words: When only connected on AC-IN, don’t set a negative AC-IN value, and the multis wont charge the batteries from grid.

sorry, I’m too blind to see - what document? The “ESS mode 2 and 3”?

as I said, I tried both settings for the charger but no difference in ChargeVoltage of the solar chargers. I will change it again now (enable charging). let’s see what happens…

by the way - I can’t read register 4921. always

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regardless if I try reading from 239 or 100.

Is there another way to read Ess mode? (and perhaps write?)