Multiple Smart Shunts for parallel battery banks

The results would scare you

We could map it with coordinates and have a map of Victron users worldwide

Or submit a knock feature request so users can leave a hello :joy:

Do you think my setup counts as risky based on your criteria? Should I be worried about using non DIN crimps?

I’m really not the person to ask about this man because I have no formal education in this and according to German law, cannot be held responsible if a failure occurs. I open my batteries and disassemble things.

If my fellow countrymen read me say anything about this I may be forced to leave the country and join the ca 280m expats worldwide. And forced to never speak the language again, while assuming a nondescript Saskatchewan Canadian accent.

Having said that, the way you have your setup is much cleaner than mine, and provided you have done the math and are NOT a certified electrician, the best thing to do is ask a certified electrician, rely on the wealth of knowledge provided by this community and consider your best judgement.

I as an absolute hack and wild west outlaw style integrator, say from appearance, I assume that anyone using ‘DIN’ as a reference is probably overkill. Had they said en or CE or certified, that would imply that they just want to make sure that the math has been done.

This level of “I-Tüpfelischisser” or fastidiousness is typical of us Germans, and a reason I have chose my style of hackery preferring accurate description from manufacturers rather than the absolutism of the national mindset.

I say this with the utmost respect and reverence to my fellow integrators, that they can navigate that system without induced insanity.

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Maybe we can swap identities, I feel exactly the same about the Netherlands.

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Sounds rather Swiss to me :grin:

You may be overestimating an average electricians sanity

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Touché. The world must never know :rofl:

Listen. We here work with rule sets based on what local laws permits us to do. Whatever you do is on your own. I’m not here to judge people nor their work. Neither whatever you do, but there is a but…. Have you ever considered to ask your insurer what they want you to do? In the end that is all that really matters isn’t it? Nobody here is either responsible nor won’t pay for any possible damages. When you are happy with it… so am I.

Have a wonderful weekend :raised_hand:

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They may just as likely refuse your claim with all the bells and whistles even if you did it by the book, and the installer may also find a way to negate on their responsibility.

I assume that the average user is aware of this and this may be a particular reason for the upstep in user involvement.

Have a wonderful weekend as well! :partying_face:

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I love the smell of passive aggressiveness in the evening, hahaha. No not really, all good. And have a lovely weekend all, live is short :hugs:

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Hilarious thank you - made me laugh out loud :rofl:

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I’m going to install the smart shunt this weekend. I’ll report back on how it goes.

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be safe

Shunt is now installed. I didn’t take photos because it’s dark but it went in as planned. I’ll take some at the weekend. I’m impressed by how easy it is to get up and running. I didn’t need to crimp any lugs because I just moved the existing battery cables from the negative busbar to the new busbar on the smart shunt. There was just enough room behind the main busbar to fit the shunt behind it. The biggest issue was getting the M8 bolt (through the main negative busbar) aligned with the thread in the shunt because there were already 3x 70mm2 cables bolted to the shunt busbar, which made it hard to move into position. But it’s there now, torqued up and in good contact, using spring washers on each bolt. I used some 240 grit wet and dry sandpaper to clean up the surface of the busbar before connecting the lugs, to ensure a good low resistance contact. It means I can now see how much power my inverters draw when idle - it’s about 120W which seems a lot, but to put it in perspective that’s about 1% of the max continuous 10kVA combined output of the two inverters. I have 600Ah of battery capacity (30kWh) so I can accept that. Smart Shunt shows about 7 days left at this discharge rate. No doubt that will change when I turn the kettle, microwave and oven on!

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Oh man I’m so happy that worked well for you. Enjoy the next weeks checking your SOC. It’s going to be great and a whole new world of gadgets and logic will follow. :sweat_smile:

Weirdly, the power output of the inverters shown on VRM has now halved - the kettle uses 2600W but is now showing 1300W on the same widget on NodeRed as I used to use for showing the inverter output power. (I have two inverters in parallel). So I created a new widget which reads the power from the SmartShunt instead and couldn’t work out why it wasn’t showing anything. Then I realised the shunt outputs a negative value when the battery is draining. So I inserted a function to negate the value before displaying it (msg.payload = -msg.payload) and that fixed it.

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Working on that certificate, way to go!

Smart shunt installed below and behind the existing negative busbar.

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Thermal camera photo while system is running under a load of 8.3kW (160 A @ 52 V DC). Smart shunt is the warmest thing in the field of view at 25.8 degrees, warmer than the busbars and crimped connections, not surprising really but reassuring.