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How to connect PV Array to MPPT in sunshine

Hello Community

I am ready to connect my PV array to my MPPT controller (the MPPT is already connected to my battery). I have read you should not make/break the connectors on load.

I could connect it in darkness or cover the array.

But I would like to know if I can use the MPPT ‘Charger Enable’ function to disable the charger – would this effectively remove load and allow me to connect the PV array in sunshine?



DavidQ asked
Alexandra answered ·

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Adapted plans supporting performance optimizers?

Dear Victron-Team,

PV module performance optimiser get more and more meaning in difficult environments, but also in terms of emergency shoutdown for all PV modules.

Since Tigo is supported in the meantime by a series of inverter manufactures (e.g. Fronius, SMA, Solax, Growatt, Omron, Kostal, Sungrow, Schneider Electric, etc.), I would appreciate, if you could consider the support with Victron MPPTs on near term.

Are there already any plans contrary to your statement from 2019?

/Thomas

ThomasW. asked

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MPPT 100/20 Charge problems

This is what happens. I have 2 X 100W solar panels connected in Series and 2 X 105A.h batteries in parallel. What can be the problem?

Eric.v asked
Eric.v answered ·

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Battery monitor doesn't show current coming from solar controller

Hello,

Just had a solar installed on my rv.. 150/85-mc4 sending amps straight to the battery bypassing shunt..

The engineer who installed the system is said that it was done this way to maximize efficiency.


Battery monitor 712 is not taking amps coming from mppt controller in consideration.. I assume negative from solar controller MUST go to the shunt and not straight to the battery in order for battery monitor to see incoming amps or is it a preference and I might be missing something?


Any help appreciated, thank you

m82 asked
mvader (Victron Energy) answered ·

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Pin ändern

Mppt 75/15 seit dem letzten Update nimmt er die geänderte PIN nicht mehr an, und setzt sie immer wieder auf die Standart PIN zurück. Am Dongle blinkt zusammen/gleichzeitig die blaue und die Rote Lampe

Supermeister asked
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MPPT 75/15 Disconnect via BMV-712 Using Relay?

I’ve read a few posts about using relays but am not sure how to go about setting my system up or if it’s even possible to do.

I’m switching my system over to Lifepo4 and using batteries that will require an external aftermarket BMS to wake up the bleeder boards and monitor individual cells to keep them balanced. This particular BMS also has the ability to set high voltage and low voltage disconnect values to trigger an external relay. My main concern is not disconnecting loads, but disconnecting solar charging coming in from my MPPT 75/15’s in an event the BMS determines there is a serious problem.

What I’m wondering is, is it possible to use my BMV-712 with the BMS relay output to trigger the disconnect of the chargers?

If I understand correctly, the BMV-712 has the ability to turn 75/15’s on and off or the load outputs on and off, but is there a way to then trigger the BMV-712 to do this?

Or will I have to just hardwire in a stand-alone relay triggered by the external BMS to cut power coming in from the 75/15’s?

Thanks for your help.

Solgato asked
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Does the MPPT have reverse current protection from the battery?

I'm looking at a description of the Cyrix Battery combiner and I would like to confirm if this device can be used for protecting the MPPT from reverse current from the battery.

MPPT data sheet does not explicitly mention reverse current protection from the battery side (but mentioned for the solar side). Does MPPT have its own internal reverse current protection or are diodes necessary to prevent damage from back current?

BTank asked
Matthias Lange - DE commented ·

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What causes 1 of 2 MPPTs to read zero watts when part of my VE Smart Network?

My small setup consists of 4 AGM batteries wired in Parallel. I have 2 MPPTs charging same 12v battery bank wired in parallel. One controller for fixed roof mounted solar array, 2 100w panels wired in parallel. Second MPPT for bumper mounted plug for portable panels, two 120w wired in series. I have a smart sense battery monitor and all devices are networked, ve smart connect. Maybe not an issue but I regularly observe where one MPPT will show 0 watts, battery state “off” with the other MPPT showing watts and state could be bulk, absorption, etc. If networked I would think both MPPTs would be charging. What am I missing here?

OverL42 asked
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Solar overvoltage protection - necessary?

Hi,

I’m installing solar to charge an existing 12v lead acid battery system, I’ve got 2 panels, a 100/50 smart solar mppt controller and I’m also going to install a smart shunt or BMV 712 smart to monitor the battery state of charge etc... ( the current system doesn’t have any battery monitoring in place)

My question is do I need to be concerned about protecting the batteries from an overvoltage event from the solar charging, or will the charge controller provide protection? I was considering using the ve direct non inverting on/off cable between the shunt/BMV and the charge controller?

Thanks in advance!

WillCful asked
KevP answered ·

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Ignore AC and DVCC

I have recently installed solar panels on my motoryacht. I am now looking for the most economical use of the solar panels, also in order to reduce the cost of shore power. The electrical system has mainly Victron components, except the panels and battery: Quattro 8000/200, Venus GX, MPPT 100/30, 720 Ah tubular plate batteries and 2 x LG Neon R 370 Wp panels, latest firmwares.

I have studied all the manuals and looked for answers on the community site. Although I see similar setups, I still do not have the ultimate answer on how to use the panels the most economical, either by using Ignore AC, DVCC, lower float voltage or a combination of these.

I fully understand how Ignore AC in VEConfigure works and have now set it up according to below screenshot:

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I have been to the yacht today and have tested it with several loads. When using heavy load, the Quattro will deliver the power instead of drawing it from the battery, so it does not unnecessarily drain too much, which would take forever for the panels to charge back into the battery. There is a certain amount of equipment that draws about average 200 W, so in a day I will loose 4.8 kW. On sunny days the panels will charge with about 4.8-5.1 kW. So on cloudy days and near winter time the batteries will slowly deplete and when voltage reaches 23.5 V, the Quattro will kick in and charge (with max 100 A) up to when bulk is finished (85 % SOC). I might change that in wintertime to when absorption is finished, as the batteries need to be fully charged every once in a while. So far so good.

The manual of the MPPT states that the DVCC function will result in the MPPT being an active controller in the system. "For systems with lead batteries, DVCC offers features such as a
configurable system wide charge current limit, where the GX device actively limits the
inverter/charger in case the solar chargers are already charging at full power". I have tried the DVCC feature (without Ignore AC) with a setting of 100 A for max charging and shared voltage, current and temperature sense.
I have observed the behaviour of MPPT and Quattro for a long time and my impression is that the MPPT does not always do what it should. I can see the Quattro charging with high amps and the panels with relatively low. When I switch off the shore power, the panels immediately jump to a much higher charge, so the panels are under DVCC not used with maximum capacity. I would also expect that when batteries are full and loads are low, while panels can produce more than the load, that the Quattro might stop charging all together.

An expert advised to lower the float voltage of the Quattro with 1 V, After lowering that setting to 26.6 V, I saw this morning at around 08.00 hrs that the Quattro stopped charging. Not completely sure why?

I have gathered my thoughts and I think I have to options: 1) use Ignore AC and 2) use DVCC. With option 1, it will deplete the battery more and I think the panels are used most economical, but I need to make sure the batteries are getting a full charge every once in a while. With option 2, the batteries are kept a full charge (100 %)., but I have the impression the panels are not used to the max and the Quattro will only stop charging when the voltage of the batteries is higher than the 26.6 V. Which brings me to the question do I also need to lower the absorption voltage in order for the Quattro to stop charging when in absorption fase in order to get the max charge out of the panels? I find lowering these setting in contradiction to the DVCC manual: "Limit charge current. This is a user-configurable maximum charge current setting. It works across the whole system. MPPT Solar Chargers are automatically prioritized over the mains/generator".

By the way: I use the AC out 2 of the Quattro for heavy users, with the intention that when I loose shore power (while sailing [do you actually sail, drive or operate a motor yacht?]), it automatically switches of the heavy consumers and I will not unnecessarily deplete the batteries. With Ignore AC while still in the harbour, I loose the heavy consumers as the Quattro needs AC on either AC In 1 (generator) or AC In 2 (shore power). I probably have to rewire the heavy consumers to AC In 1.

My questions:

1) Why does the Quattro stop charging when lowering float voltage when panels are charging?

2) Do I need to lower the float voltage in order for the Quattro to stop charging while enabled DVCC?

3) Why is DVCC not using maximum available charge from the solar panels?

4) Do I also need to lower the absorption voltage while DVCC enabled so the Quattro stops charging in absorption fase to maximum use the charge of the panels

5) Can I, or should I, use DVCC in combination with Ignore AC?

Any comment, suggestions, answers are welcome.

I have also published about the installation of the electrical system and the solar panels on my weblog (in Dutch, but has Google translate button): www.xanthiona.com .

jurjenhoekstra asked
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MPPT 100/50 - 1 PV input shorted from 3 available PV inputs?

I have installed an off-grid EasySolar 1600 with 24V battery (2x 12V) and 3 solar panels. I connected them to PV input 1, 2 and 3 of the EasySolar (MPTT 100) and sadly one panel connection was reversed and although it should be reversed polarity protected the input (of entire MPTT?) was blown. Saw the smoke coming out and smelled it, from which I draw the conclusion this was really burnt out. This was on PV input nr 2.

I disconnected this input but the other inputs seem to be working. As I have no more monitor (BMV7xx) in this system I cannot see the battery charging levels but I do see the bulk led on with the other PV inputs correctly connected. Is there an easy way to be sure it still works correctly?

Could it be that the 3 PV inputs are internally separated and separately fused so only PV input 2 is affected?

EricK1974 asked
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MPPT voltage and current jumping around late in Absotption stage

We have an EasySolar 48/5000/70-100 with CGX, BMV, lead acid battery bank (460Ah) and 2600W of solar panels. It is a fully off-grid, residential installation.

I noticed a strange issue today. During the low-amperage tail of the absorption cycle, the MPPT voltage and current started to fluctuate rather wildly. I will attach a VRM image of the data, with the issue starting at around 1330hrs. It has been a perfectly clear day, with not a cloud in the sky. The current plot from the inverter indicates there were no unusual loads at the time.

Has anyone else encountered this and what may its significance be?

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Gavin Andrews asked
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100/50 MPPT Incorrectly Indicating 0V PV input (SOLVED)

I have 2 x 160W Renogy panels connected in parallel feeding into a 100/50 Smartsolar MPPT. Testing the PV leads with a multimeter shows a 21.2 voltage, yet when the leads are connected to the MPPT all I get is a blinking blue "Bulk" light flashing once each 3 seconds. The bluetooth app indicates 0V across the solar leads, while measuring the voltage across the connected terminals with the multimeter yields something like 0.3V. I have double checked that the polarity of the PV inputs is correct as labeled, though it is possible that the installer mislabeled.


The MPPT is meant to charge 3 x 100Ah battleborn lithium batteries. Battery voltage measured with both multimeter and a connected BMV-712 has been in the range of 13.12V. Charge parameters have been set to 14.4V bulk/absorption and 13.6V float. The charging algorithm has been left at "battery life" since I have no information about what these algorithms entail.


Anyone have any ideas on what might be wrong here? I've read that there may be a bad crimp or MC4 connector, so that as soon as the MPPT tries to draw current things fall apart. Does this seem to make sense?


Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've been struggling with repairing this install job without much success!

dvant asked
dvant answered ·

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End of absorption with tail current

Hello. I wonder if I am thinking this right... I am trying to end the absorption phase solely based on the tail current, but it seems system is ignoring that.


Scenario is: Charging LiFEPO4 bank with 8 cells (25.6V) with integrated BMS just for protection (no communication with Victron)

- Multiplus 24/ 3000

- 3x MPPT in parallel charging

- Venus GX


Customised charge profile:

- Absorption voltage: 27.6 V (I can monitor cells, and no cell is above 3.6V)

- Absorption time: Fixed, 1hour 30 minutes

- Tail current: 9 amps, battery capacity is ~180Ah

- Float voltage: 27.1 V


It ignored the tail current and the absorption time was exactly 1,5 hours. I would like to stop absorption when current decreases past 9A.

I didn't feel adaptive time was ok for lifepo4, as if bulk takes longer, absorption may not need so much time. I would like to make the criteria to stop Abs be solely the Tail Current (system!, not individually each MPPT)

How can I do this?

Elimac asked
Elimac commented ·

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What’s an accurate multimeter?

Hello,

I will be taking current and voltage readings at the battery terminals, the battery strings, the charger terminals and the PV strings. For that, I think I need a multimeter. The question is: what brand of a self-contained meter can I buy online, especially on Amazon? I’m in the US.

Victron seems to sell only Energy Meters which, I suppose, are limited. Moreover, a GX device is required.
Fideri

Fideri asked
Fideri answered ·

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75/10 Bluetooth MPPT showing voltages but not charging

I have the 75/10 MPPT hooked up to a 12V VRLA gel battery and a Renogy 100W PV panel. Basically the same setup as I have in my van, which works great.


For some reason, this setup doesn't want to charge the battery. It's showing what looks like correct PV and battery voltage, but no current or PV production.


Occasionally, the LED on the charge controller will show a solid blue light and the PV voltage will fluctuate, but there is still no current. The battery status will show "bulk" on the app. I confirmed there no current with a multimeter. See below:

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But most often, the battery says "off" on the app, and the PV voltage matches the battery voltage. I've tried disconnecting and reconnecting, disconnecting and leaving off for hours before reconnecting, and nothing seems to make it want to charge... see below:

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Any advice?

manjusri52 asked
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Issue connecting with VictronConnect with mobile phone and Victron dongle on MPPT 75/15

When I start up the Victron Connect app it finds the controller/dongle. I then select the unit. Then it starts to establish a connection. But when it reaches 90%, it starts at 0% again and stays at 0% and nothing more happens.

On the dongle itself there is a blue and a red LED. The blue flashes fast,and the red (error LED) flashes slowly.

Any idea to solve this problem?

Lars H. asked
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Mppt 100/15 charging problem

Hi Community,


I have some problem with my new Mppt 100/15 blueSolar charger. The charger doesn't charge my battery ? Can you help me ?


Follwing parameter.


2 Büttner Panel MT SM 110 MC

1 Battery 180Ah Lithium LiFePO4

1 MPPT 100/15 BlueSolar charger


Solar volt: 20,93 v

a = 0a


Battery volt = 13,19 v

setting in mppt charger: i use the default profil: Lithium Iron Phospate (LiFePo4).

12 Volt setting

max ah: 15a


The last 3 days, my camper war parked in sun.. But the battery is not load for a second.

Thanks for your help

Daniel












spokiter asked
spokiter answered ·

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Victron Smart Solar 150/35 charging shutoff malfunction

Here is the configuration:
Two SmartSolar 150/35 loading a 48 V LiFePO4 Battery disconnecting without error at around 30A load. New system running two 150/35 on two identic pv strings. The webpage https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ba... is known to me.

Nevertheless, I have no DX-device installed and the chargers have no bus connection with the BMS of the battery.

All three Victron MPPTs I have installed are charging bulk until a voltage level of 52.3V until Absorption and 51.00V Float.
This results in: At 97% battery charge status, both of the 150/35 are into Absorption and end up at 99% in Float mode. On lower currents than about 30A, everything works fine..

Again, I stress: The Victron chargers do not "know" anything from the battery. No bus connection beetween Victron chargers and battery BMS at all. I know, that Victron recommends using a DX-device in combination with Pylontech batteries, however, the Solar MPPTs of Victron are universal chargers, that are described in the manual as for universal use. Therefore I claim that these controllers in the present configuration should basically work, even without BMS bus control.

The controllers are intentionally undersized regarding battery charging current. The manual and the Victron layout software say, that this is possible in my configuration and the particular chargers will limit charging currents higher than 35A each. I've already checked that and it works without any overtemparature problem for a while.

Here is the error description: Both controllers sometimes switch off at battery charging currents above 30A, regardless of the battery's state of charge, and independently from each other. At the same time there is no error message. Not in the csv sheet, the LED still shows blue, as if the bulk load would run normally. After about 20 minutes, the charge current is switched on again and the controller charges the battery normally. If the charge current of 30A and above continues, the cycle repeats after about 15 minutes.

For demonstration, I have uploaded a video to https://youtu.be/XXRgIShPb9g

I have never watched such a behaviour on these usually very reliable devices and hope, that someone can point me in the right direction.

Thank you very much!

Michael Timler asked
Michael Timler answered ·

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EasySolar-II GX and ECO4840P batteries

Hello to all,

Can anyone please advise if the EasySolar-II GX will integrate properly with PowerPlus Energy (Aust) ECO4840P battery banks that have built in proprietary BMS with no communications capability?

The ECO4840P's are not listed in the Victron Battery Compatibility list however PowerPlus Energy state that model ECO4840P is compatible with Victron but there is no clear statement about working specifically with EasySolar-II.

My new EasySolar-II system is fully connected to 2 x ECO4840P's and the EasySolar MPPT charger is being held in OFF state by the GX device.

Just wondering if it's because the GX can't talk to a BMS?

Any advice appreciated.

Kind regards Andrew.


OutbackAndy asked
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Can the MPPT function of a charge controller be turned off?

I would like to turn off the MPPT function on a charge controller.

How can I do this?

I thank you in advance for any assistance you may provide.


Kind regards,

Blue sails asked
Porcini answered ·

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Load voltage too high

I use a ESS-System with a Fronius on AC-in and a MPPT 250/100 on AC-out and DVCC is enabled.

Absorption voltage in the MultiGrids is set to 57.6V and in the MPPT too.

In this constellation the load voltage will rise until 58V. Therefore I set absorption voltage to 57.2V in the MultiGrids and then the max. voltage is 57.7V. It seems that the MPPT will oversteer the voltage of the MultiGrids with 0.4V. I thought that the MultiGrid will be the master...

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In DVCCMenue SVS is disabled.

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When SVS is enabled it's the same - voltage too high!


Is that a bug?

MaHa asked
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Question re. settings for Smart Solar 100/50 and Victron Connect

Hi, I have 2 x 300W panels feeding two Sun Xtender 12v 258AH AGM batteries in parallel via a SmartSolar 100/50 controller (Victron battery sensor mounted and connected to the network). I'd like to set the correct parameters using Victron connect but being new to this I'm unsure of the settings.

Sun Xtender manual stipulates for charging

Bulk/Absorb set to 14.2 - 14.4

Float set to 13.2 - 13.4

The recommended linear coefficient for Temperature Compensation Sun Xtender batteries is 0.024V/degree C for a 12V battery.

I have set the Bulk absorb to 14.3

Float to 13.3

I am presuming the temperature compensation should be set to 24mV/C. Unless the temperature sensor makes this setting a moot point?

There doesn't appear to be any setting to set levels of discharge?

Additionally not completely sure of the best maximum charging Watts setting I am presuming 50W for this controller?

Phew! sorry for the length and detail, thanks for any info.PS, really enjoying the set up so far.


Earl asked
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Can 510W of solar panels be connected to a 100/30 MPPT in 12V

I already have a 100/30 MPPT controller. I am planning on connecting 3 Zamp solar panels @170W ea to a combiner box in parallel. Total Pmax would be 510W. Vmp of panels is 18v. Max power current for each panel is 9.4. The panels will be mounted flat on my RV roof. I know the documentation says a max of 450W for this controller, but I have read articles about oversizing your array for your controller is OK as any excess power will be clipped and those articles have also said that a larger array will harvest more power earlier in, and later in the day, as well as on cloudy days, or if there is partial shading due to trees. Will a potential of 60W above the charge controller documented max cause harm to the controller on those days when there is full unobstructed sun.

Joe R asked
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Wie kann man im Boot mit MultiPlus den Strom aus MPPT priorisieren wenn der Landanschluss angeschlossen ist?

Ich habe einen 220V Luftentfeuchter der an MultiPlus im Boot angeschlossen ist und möchte den Landanschluss so wenig wie möglich belasten um Kosten zu sparen. Es soll vorwiegend der Solarstrom verwendet werden und der Landstrom soll nur bei Bedarf die Differenz ausgleichen. Zurzeit sehe ist das der MPPT meistens im Float Modus ist.

MILS asked
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New solar panels to my mppt 100/30

I have just replaced my 2 x 80 w panals with 2 x 250 w panals in parallel to my smart solar mppt 100/30. AT v max 22.85 VOLTS on a sunny day I am only receiving p max 258 watts . I believe it should be around 400 w. My system is attached to 3 x 120 amp/h AGM using 50 amp/h wiring What could be wrong?

John Rice asked
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How to correct or repair a BlueSolar MPPT 150|35 that is reading battery voltage wrong

I have a working installation of a BlueSolar 150|35, v1.16, connected to 2 parallel series of 3 250W/24V panels. The battery bank consists of 5 pairs of 2 batteries, each battery a 110VA 12V stationary battery. The system has been working for almost 2 years without any problem. Four days ago, this changed:

- the system did not have power anymore to run a water pump

- because the battery voltage was too low, about 22.5 Volts

- the MPPT was stuck in 'float' mode really early in the day and because of this, never charged to batteries

Yesterday I managed to (re)connect the MPPT to a Linux machine using the VeDirect RS232 connector. Connecting using minicom, baudrate 19200 and 8bits, I got data frames from the MPPT, below a copy of one of them:

PID 0xA04B
FW 116
SER# HQ1746JGWU1
V 27320
I 300
VPV 101460
PPV 9
CS 5
ERR 0
H19 159940
H20 36
H21 723
H22 23
H23 400
HSDS 314

This tells me, that the MPPT thinks that the battery voltage is 27320 volts. One minute after seeing this, I measured the battery voltage using a multimeter. Battery voltage is 23,3 volts on the multimeter. The MPPT software seems to stay in float, because of the high voltage it measures.

What are my options ?

- is there a way to re-calibrate the voltage measurement of the batteries ?

- is it safe to re-configure the treshold voltage, set it to a higher value, like 30 or 32V, in the hope that it will go to float when the battery actually has 27 or 28 Volts ?


Wiebe Ruiter asked
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Mppt & pwm solar charger on same battery bank

Hi,

on my RV i have a 100w 12v solar panel with a pwm controller.

i’ve tried replacing the pwm controller with a victron100/20 mppt but often the panel doesn’t reached 17v so the charger doesn’t start at all.
now i’m addinga second 300w panel with a proper victron mppt. Is it possible to still mantain the old 100w solar panel with it’s pwm controller connected to the same battery bank or it will cause problem?

the battery bank is composed of two 100a 12v agm batteries in parallel.

Luca n asked
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MPPT tripping breakers

I've had my system installed for ovear a year with no issues, and suddenly this started happening. (no changes to system)

So, I've got a 290 watt single panel the goes to a 30amp circuit breaker, then to my victron 100/20 mppt. To another 30amp breaker and then to a bus bar. Which goes out to the battery, fuse panel, and inverter, all of which also have breakers.


So a week ago i get in and pull up my stats and notice no solar coming in. I look and the breaker between the panel and the mppt had tripped. Well it's in a not so great place, and I thought i may have bumped it. So I reset it and everything was good until the following afternoon.

Now the breaker between the mppt and bus var tripped. I inspect all of my wiring and can find nothing wrong. I reset the breaker and move wires etc as much as possible to see if i can get it to trip. Nothing. Again works great until the following afternoon!

Is m charge controller at fault? Any ideas? My battery died due to this. And as much as I would love a valid excuse to go lithoumm, I just want my fridge to stay running.

Sorry for the long post! Thanka if you made it this far!

UrbanOverlanding asked
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Victron MPPT 100/50 - Batteriespannung falsch angezeigt

Hallo,


Wir haben einen kleine Inselanlage mit 2x 100A 12V Batterien


Dabei mussten wir nun folgendes feststellen: es wird beim Regler eine viel niedrigere Batteriespannung angezeigt als tatsächlich auf der Batterie gemessen.


Dies hat meiner Meinung zur Folge, dass die Batterie obwohl voll immer weiter geladen wird. Bin ich richtig der annahme? Ausserdem hat die Batterie bereits stark Schwefelig gerochen, weshalb ich nun alles deaktiviert und abgesteckt habe.


Kann mir vielleicht jemand erklären, weshalb dieser wert falsch im Laderegler angezeigt wird? Die Batterien sind mit nem halben Meter Kabel verbunden


Ich sag schonmal danke

Dominik


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