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My Blue Smart IP22 charger (12 V / 30 A - 3 outputs) sometimes trips the automatic fuse of the shore supply when starting up. The fuse is 10 A , B-curve type. No other equipment than the charger is connected at that moment so the charger must be the cause of this. When the charger does not trip the fuse, it functions normally.
What could be the cause ? Is this a known issue ? Any suggestions for a solution ?

I need help selecting a Victron 12V charger that

1. Can handle 120V and 230V power
2. Can connect to a Cerbo and honor stop charge commands from the Cerbo (which in turn is listening to REC Victron Compatible BMS)
3. I need relatively high amperage charging. 100a would be ideal.

Are there any devices that would work? It seems the Centaur doesn't communicate with Cerbo, and isn't programmable.

BTW, my absolute fantasy product is an inverter/charger that can plug into any shore voltage, but puts out only 230V. Sort of an transformer/inverter/charger.

Background:

I'm on a boat that uses shore power all over the world, so I need to be able to plug in to USA 120V and 230V everywhere else. I use that to charge my batteries, and use a a separate inverter using the batteries to provide AC house power to the boat. I currently have a Mastervolt Chargemaster 12-100 that handles any voltage. That works great, but now I'm upgrading to LiFePo4 batteries, and the Mastervolt doesn't have Lithium profiles, doesn't seem (???) to be programmable. It also will not connect to the Cerbo or Bms, so I can't send stop charge commands.

Thanks!

How many watts does the built in 70 amp charger use on the Victron Quattro 5000

I'm curious if there's a critical protocol for connecting or disconnecting a charge controller. It's my assumption it's ok to tie in live panels so long as a battery is connected & to disconnect any live panels before removing the batteries. Would that be right? And is it a bad move to connect live panels with no battery connected? Or suppose a battery breaker trips & disconnects the battery from the charger with live panel power, would that fry a charger? I'd like to think Victron has these scenario's covered for protection against such things but I had 2 chargers fail within a couple of days of each other & not sure if 1 of those was the cause.

Bonjour à toutes et tous,

J’ai besoin de votre avis sur l’alimentation en 12V d’un EBL 119. EBL est un bloc électrique qui équipe la plupart des Camping-Cars.

Mon intention est de retirer complètement la batterie de service équipée de base (AGM) et sa connexion à l’EBL et de m’équiper en Lithium 2x 200Ah.

L’EBL n’étant pas conçu pour le Lithium, je m’équipe totalement différemment et le tout en Victron.

Mais je souhaite quand même garder l’EBL qui gère les alimentations 12V du CC, pompe, chauffage,etc…

D’où ma question :

Est-il correct d’alimenter l’EBL (sans batterie de service donc) par son entrée chargeur +/- qui autorise une alimentation en 18A et câblé en 16mm2, ceci serait possible grâce au Chargeur Orion-Tr Smart isolé 12/12-18 depuis le parc Lithium ?

Ou est-ce un autre chargeur ?

Si ceci est correct, est-il judicieux d’installer un BatteryProtect pour éviter le retour ou pas nécessaire ?

Merci beaucoup de vos lumières

I have a starter battery and a service battery on my boat and need to replace the charger. The old charger has a single output. Both batteries are connected to the alternator via a diode bridge. If I connect both batteries separately to the charger, will I still need the diode bridge? How then does the alternator gets connected without messing things up? Here's an image of the current setup:

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I use this charger for a LiFePo4 battery from BattleBorn. I am re-doing my setup and was wondering if it is safe to leave the charger connected to the battery all the time so that when mains power is available I can plug it in and have it charge the battery while the load connected to the battery continues to run? I believe I have seen that this is okay but wanted to confirm. Secondarily I have the function set to charger - would I need to switch that to power supply or can I just leave it as charger?

Thank you!

Hi there, thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

I've just finished my solar setup in our small van and turned everything on. Everything appears to be working properly except the DC Charger is not powering on. My MPPT solar charge controller right next to it powered on just fine. Any tips from the community on how I can check what the problem might be?

Setup:

• 2 x 100ah 12v LiFePO4 batteries wired in parallel
• Negative from Batteries run through Victron's BMV712 Smart Shunt, and then to Blue sea systems Safety Hub 150 fuse block, and from the fuse block I run a ground to the van chassis
• Positive from batteries run through a fuse, then through a cutoff switch, and then finally over to the positive side of the Safety Hub 150
• DC charger is wired from Alternator
  • DC Charger is not yet connected to the alternator, as I need to power off my starter battery from what I have read
  • and yes, it is actually more convenient and shorter to run 6AWG cable from my alternator, about 6-8ft, than it is from my starter battery 10+ feet and more difficult
• Wire from Alternator is ran through a fuse, and then to a cutoff switch, finally ending in the DC charger
• DC Charger to Safety Hub Fuseblock is very close, less than a foot, and the wire is 8AWG
• Voltemeter test says there are 17-20 volts on the output posts

Does this sound like the unit itself malfunctioned somehow, or did I set something up wrong? I shouldn't need to connect the charger itself to the Starter Battery or the Alternator for this to work, as long as I have it connected to the battery bank, correct?

Hi everybody,

I've tried to dig into all questions and answer but it seems that my question is never asked before.
If the opposite please my apologise from now. Please send me the link of the previous post.

I'm moving from gel battery to DIY LiFePo4 batteries.
I've just bought a new charger, the Multiplus 12/3000/120.
I've already installed on board BMV712 and Venus OS on a Raspberry Pi3

When I'm in the marina, connected to the shore power, I would like to charge the battery up to 85% of their capacity and switch off the charger, but continue to use the shore power and the inverter if necessary (power off, more energy etc). Then switch ON again the charger at 40% of the batteries capacity.

As I can see the phisical remote can have only Charger ON or Charger/Inverter ON or all OFF.

I see that using the relay of my BMV712, at 85% of the capacity I can open/close the contact and with another bigger relay cut the shore power off, and on again at 40%. But with this setup when the shore power is off I shall would use only the inverter.

Is there any possibility to switch off only the charger function and keep the shore power?

Thanks

Max

Hello,

Sometimes when I power on the IP43 Charger (3/50A), it blows the fuse in the shore power pole. When the fuse is reset by someone of the marina, all works properly again. The unit a powering multiple lead/acid batteries.

I have read that someone else noticed a high startup consumption, but not sure he means this.

Do I have a faulty unit? Any suggestions?

Regards,

Alex

Victron IP43 charger

Today did I Observe on the batterymonitor that the charger didn’t charge my battery bank as expected.

Checked the shore power, 230 volt.

When I checked the LEDs on the IP43 charger:

All LEDs on including ALERT/ALARM led

Followed by only BULK led on.

My interpretation is: Bulk time protection

I expected to see bulk, floating etc

Have nerver before faced any alarms.

What criteria has caused this bulk time protection?

Will it start to charge after some ”protection time out”?

Don’t like this status now with sound from a Relay and leds flashing

How does the 3 output behave with only one battery connected? Is the total charge output divided among the three outputs regardless? For example if only one battery is connected to the 3 output model would it get a 30 amp charge or a 10 amp charge. If the output is divided can all three outputs be hooked up to one battery?

Hi,

I'll shortly be installing 5x Firefly Oasis G31 as my house bank, are there any plans to create a firefly specific profile for the following equipment?

- BMV-712

- Phoenix Smart Charger 3+1 50A

- MPPT 150/60

Or can someone share the settings that they currenty use?

Hi there,

I need some help programming the Phoenix Charger model 12/30. I have followed the manual as best I can, but nothing seems to work.

I first tried to program it without the remote control, using a voltmeter. I switched it on as instructed in the manual, and the correct LEDs were alternately blinking. However the voltage on the voltmeter, in DC mode, was way off - around 40-50 millivolts, whereas the manual said it would be in the 12-16 volt range. I was hooked up to the positive and negative just like it suggested. Additionally, the up and down buttons had no effect.

I then tried to program it with the remote control, and it was entering into all the correct modes (based on the LED patterns), however, I was unable to actually alter any of the voltage settings using the up and down buttons on the circuit board. No matter how many times I clicked or in which direction, the LEDs on the remote never changed their flashing patterns.

Am I missing something? I have the batteries disconnected, and there is no voltage or temperature sensor either. I just have it plugged into mains and following the instructions.

I have contracted my distributor but so far they have not helped me.

Thank you for your help!

I have a Phoenix Multiplus 12/3000/120. This specific model https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Manual%20-%20MultiPlus%203k%20230V%20Ve.Bus%20enabled%20-%20rev%2000%20-%20EN%20NL.pdf

is there any way to separately control the charger and inverter for a two signal BMS like on the new models?

thanks for any help.

Hi Everyone - I'm hoping you can help with a question I have on the best choice of AC>DC charger, and the setup for my planned battery configuration in my van build

At the moment I have three 95Ah AGM batteries that are hooked up in parallel that i want to charge using a Blue Smart AC>DC charger from my shore power system, and i'm wondering whether it's best to go with the 30A single output charger, with the pos and neg going to the batteries at the opposing end of the parallel bank, or potentially go with the 15A 3 output charger with each battery having its own pos connection and the neg's all running to a common bus bar? All options with fuses at the battery end of course.

Are there any benefits or drawbacks to either approach?

Does anyone have a similar setup to either option and can provide any good feedback on their choice?

Thanks!!!

Kyle

Good day. I have a boat that I will be on for 2-4 weeks at a time and using for living, cooking, lighting, etc as a what people call a working system. I have 3 items I need setup properly. Can you all assist with settings? I have a Victron BMV 712, Victron 150/70 MPPT (870watts), Xantrex 150amp charger/inverter, and 4 Lion Energy Safari UT1300 105ah lithiums.

1st priority is longevity of my batteries, but a very close second is:

Fast charging. I have to burn precious diesel to run generator (maintenance/fuel) to use the Xantrex charger. And, my solar is on a boat and thus never optimally positioned so I need to maximize my Victron MPPT 150/70 when I get sun. I cannot wait around for slow charging my lithium batteries as I only have 400 amp hours and uses 200-300 per day and need it back daily.

MPPT settings:

Battery: User

Absorption: 13.9

Float: 13.9

Equalization: 0

Temp comp: off. battery should do it.

low temp cutoff: off battery BMS should do it.

BMV 712:

Capacity: 420 Ahr

Charged voltage: 13.9/14.0

Tail current: 4%

Charge detection time: 3-5 minutes

Peukert exponent: 1.05

Charge Efficiency factor: 99%

Current threshold: 8 amps (2% of capacity?)

Time to go average: 3min

Zantrex 150 amp charger.

Bulk: no setting, constant amps till reaches absorption voltage.

Absorption: 13.9 - 14.2. Cannot decide what to enter.

float: 13.5 to 13.9 . I don't know what to enter.

Absorption time: lowest possible I can set to. Under 30 minutes.

No equalization

No temp compensation

Invert low volt shutdown: 11.5 safe value. How much am I leaving in capacity at 11.5 vs 10v?

Recovery. 12 or 12.2 volts. Not sure what to enter.

Hello,

Currently I am working on a simple setup for a camper. I've added AC and DC load to the schematic.

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I would like to ask the experts out there to check if this setup is correct or if I still need to adjust something here.

For now I only want to use shore power to charge the battery and in the future I want to expand this with solar panels.

I do not intend to connect this setup to the alternator for the time being.

Kind Regard

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Trying to understand the reason why battery current on my MPPT 100/15 is consistently showing as being higher than solar current. My understanding with the 100/15 is that a positive battery current number means current going into the battery and a negative means current leaving. But how can current going in to the battery exceed what is coming off the panels?

100Wx2 panels. In series. A/C charger off. BMV 712 monitor and Blue Sea charging relay.

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I'm planning to install a Mini-Split on a motorhome, with a dedicated 800Ah Lithium battery bank and a 230V Inverter (Phoenix Inverter Smart 1600VA). For batteries, I'm leaning towards (4 * 12.8/200Ah), for less weight and the option to set the bank at 12V or 24V.
So my questions are:
1) Should I set the bank at 12V or 24V (I'm leaning towards 24V for the option of connecting a DC-DC converter to charge my 12V the "House" batteries: (2 * 125Ah), Lithium.
2) Which Charger should I consider when connected to Shore/Gen power (120V/30A service).?

Hello,

Currently I am working on a simple setup for a camper. I would like to ask you to check if this setup is correct or if I still need to adjust something here.

For now I only want to use shore power to charge the battery and in the future I want to expand this with solar panels.

I do not intend to connect this setup to the alternator for the time being.

Kind Regards

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My Victron Connect Android phone app forced me to update charger firmware. But, after first unsuccessful attempt, charger stopped working. I tried multiple, multiple times to finish this firmware update, but it fails on random percentage of progress. I have updated Victron Connect app to latest version, I have tried to do this right next to the charger to minimize connection issues, I tried to turn off charger for some time, in hope that it will load it's factory firmware, but without success.

Now, I don't have working charger anymore. Does anyone has any suggestions?

Hi All

I wonder if anyone can explain a strange issue I am seeing on my system...

Set up - 3x Lithium (3x 200A), VE.Bus BMS, Venus GX, BMV712 and Multiplus (EasyPlus 12/1600/70 - set to 70A charge current max).

Example of situation / what I am seeing -

• I leave the boat for a few days
• with a constant load of about 1.5A on batteries
• I arrive back at boat - and BMV says state of charge is 90%
• all good so far

I plug shore power in - and switch Multi on - and do NOT switch on anything else -

• it goes straight to Bulk - good.
• If I look in Venus at the Multiplus - it says it is generating 70A - good.
• I look at the BMV - and it says it has about 60A going in to batteries - strange
• I expect the current going in to batteries to be about 68.5A (charge current - loads)
• where are the other 10A going / being lost ?
• I look on VRM and see DC Power showing my DC loads are pulling about 10A
• but this is not true - the loads / devices are only about 1.5A
• I have not switched any other loads on

This false high DC loads figure (about 10A) stays while charging Amp are high (in bulk). When multi goes to absorption - the false high DC loads (10A) reduces in line with the drop of charging Amps. I watch the 10A loads reading slowly drop to 1.5A as the multi reduces its charge current from 70A to almost nothing. Then - in float - the DC loads read accurately - 1.5A.

Any thoughts on what the issue is ?

Thanks

Tim

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I need help. I have an Impulse 12 / 24V 8A charger. I can set the charging characteristics by changing the DIP switch. I just don't have a table that should be set by the DIP switch. Can I use the settings for Impulse S12 because I only have them. Thanks.

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That's pretty much it.

Also would any chassis ground count as being "common" so long as the Van's battery and the house lithium batteries all have negative continuity to it?

Multiplus and Skylla Chargers: Is the repeat absorption interval re-set when power to the charger is disconnected or does charger continue to time the current interval even if power is cycled?

Lithium batteries on a sailboat. Want to control when bats are pushed into bulk/absorption voltage to reduce un-necessary wear. Plan to enable "Watch function" on Skylla (start-up in storage if battery voltage >=13 V.). And set repeat absorption interval to 15 days (to allow cells to re-balance). Want to avoided charger from entering bulk/absorb voltages when charger is plugged back in if batteries are at or above float/storage voltage. Concern is the repeat absorption interval will re-set every time the boat is unplugged from the dock and not go into repeat absorption mode if power is regularly cycled inside of 15 days. Charger will always start in storage mode if voltage above 13v. Therefore Bulk/absorption voltage never reached for cell balancing.

Sadly, no solution to my Load voltage disconnect problem, I want to perform a factory reset, but the reset i did was just a soft reset, is there a HARD RESET option? I want to to start again before deciding to just return it.

Hello all,

I'm in a bit of a dilemma, and do not know which route to go with an inverter/charger.

I'm now confused in what to get.

Multiplus - classic, has all the nice features

Multiplus compact - going to be discontinued, what does it lack next to the multiplus?

New multiplus - this I'm not sure what features it has, I see it has different ac in/out with connectors, not hard wired inside, does it come in the box with cable? I cannot find any information or video footage of the new multiplus, looks like nobody has installed or reviewed this product...

All the help would be appreciated!

1. I have a Multiplus 12-2000-80 inverter charger.
   When generator is on, i can use the inverter but can’t turn on the charger.
   - i used to turn on Generator , Turn on inverter to help start AC , then switch back to “charger only”. Now as soon as i switch to charger only, power does not come in anymore from generator. , if i go back to switching to inverter , power comes back on from Generator.
   It worked for about 6 months .
   
   
   
   

Dear all,

I am wondering:

Regarding what i read and hear the best to do with (in this case) AGM- deep cycle and super cycle batteries is following, in short:

- Always after use charge battery to full and after that, disconnect charger.

- If not used a fully charged battery for a period: After 1 or 2 months charge batteries again for maintenance purposes and to make sure a complete charge cycle is made.

- Do not interrupt charge when charging a fully charged battery, so do not charge batteries if not necessary and when it is not possible to finsih a complete charge cycle.

In my case:

I have a color control connected to a multiplus 12 volt, connected to 2 x 230 Ah in parallel.

The system can be monitored by the gsm module, so i have a constant network connection. Power drain in standby is around 0,2 amps due to data connection etc. When i use remote console, power drain is around 0,3-0,4 amps. So in other words: i am superslowly draining the batteries.

Question:

Do i keep the charger on or off when in standby? For my understanding, it is not very healthy to keep a charger always on whe u store batteries, even not when it has storage mode (see above for my understanding)

But in this case i am slowly draining the batteries, so is it better to leave the charger on when i am not on the boat for like 2 weeks?

For what i do now when i leave the boat:

I charge the batteries to 100 percent. I keep the color control online. After 2 weeks, the day before i go to the boat, i turn on the charger remotely.

Is this the best thing to do?

Best regards, Piet