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Bonjour,

J'ai récemment installé un système MultiPlus 2 5000/48 V470, CCGX v2.52, MPPT 250/60, BMV 712,

lorsque le MultiPlus 2 est configuré avec un assistant ESS 0176, celui-ci refuse de charger les batteries Lifepo4 via le secteur, il indique Capacité Directe.

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En retirant l'assistant ESS de la configuration, le Multiplus charge normalement, mais désactive la charge du MPPT.

Si j'essaye d'activer une charge d'égalisation le CCGX me renvoie un message "Chargeur pas prêt : légalisation ne peut pas être démarré"

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assistant ESS est configuré pour fonctionner avec un BMS CAN, mais visiblement le problème ne vient pas d'ici, car j'ai fait une configuration de l'assistant ESS en batterie plomb et le résultat est pareil le MultiPlus ne veut pas charger.

Avez-vous une idée d'où provient le problème ??

Est-ce que je dois essayer avec une ancienne version de l'assistant ESS ?

Merci pour votre aide.

Alexis

Hello,

I recently installed a MultiPlus 2 5000/48 V470, CCGX v2.52, MPPT 250/60, BMV 712 system,

when the MultiPlus 2 is configured with an ESS 0176 assistant, it refuses to charge the Lifepo4 batteries via the mains, it indicates Direct Capacity.

By removing the ESS wizard from the configuration, the Multiplus charges normally, but deactivates the charging of the MPPT.

If I try to activate an equalization charge the CCGX sends me a message "Charger not ready: legalization cannot be started"

ESS assistant is configured to work with a BMS CAN, but obviously the problem does not come from here, because I have made a configuration of the ESS assistant in lead battery and the result is similar the MultiPlus does not want to charge.

Do you have any idea where the problem is coming from?

Should I try with an older version of the ESS wizard?

Thanks for your help.

Alexis

400Ah (2 x Renogy 12v Deep Cycle Batteries)

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Hallo liebe Community. Ich habe eine Frage zum MPPT 150/100 TR. Und zwar: wird der PV-Eingang, sobald der Akku voll ist, kurzgeschlossen oder einfach nur abgeklemmt? Ich würde diesen Regler gerne an eine Wasserturbine (permanent erregt, bis zu 72 volt)anschliesen. Ist das möglich? Danke im Vorraus. Lg Jonas

Hi,

I have 2 loss-free diode bridges between the alternator and my 4 (1x start, 1x bow thruster, 1x winch, 2x service) batteries. The specific type is this one:

https://www.studer-innotec.com/media/document/0/mbi_series_user_manual_en.pdf

Can I connect an MTTP solar charger to the same + as the where the alternator is connected to?

I'd like to do so, so that all batteries get charged and not just the service battery.

All batteries are 'deep cycle 12v' batteries.

I recently bought the IP43 Phoenix Charger (because my old Phoenix charger died suddenly). The charger is located near the batteries, but in a different room, so temperature can vary. According to the IP43 manual (p 5, section 4.1) temperature and voltage compensation is optionally available with the Smart Battery Sense. It's also listed as a related product on the website. So I bought the Battery Sense, installed it, created a network. But... no possibility to add my Phoenix Charger. When I did some further reading, I discovered a page about the VE.Smart Networking claiming the IP43 is NOT compatible with this technology (https://www.victronenergy.com/live/victronconnect:ve-smart-networking ).

What is this about? How can I make my IP43 compensate for temp. differences using the Smart Battery sense? Several similar questions were already posted but no answers... Can anyone please help? Thanks!!

Br,

Vincent.

Hello,

is there a possibility to use additional 48v Charger in system?

maybe it is possible to messure with 1phase sensor? To get correct soc?

best regards

Hi,

I found a Phoenix Multiplus second hand for a decent price. Will I be able to properly charge my LiFePo4 batteries with it? I just realized that it is an older inverter/charger — can I manually set my charging profile?

Thanks!

Any idea on the size of the front panel screw on the Multiplus 12/3000? I had one escape into the bilge.

Cheers, RickG

Ive inherited this inverter multiplus compact 12v 1200 va 50 amp which supplies power to my back up battery on my submersable pumps in my basement

we had a power cut and the back up didnt cut in and it was flashing red on the inverter, its now flashing orange on the charger light

can anyone tell me what i need to do to get it to charge my battery if the power goes off again im confused as to what lights should be on/flashing and do i use the charger only switch at anytime

I attached the Blue Smart IP65 12/15 charger directly to my 2016 Mercedes Sprinter chassis battery via the M8 battery eyelets and the 2m long extension cable.

I have an Espar D2 that is directly connected to the battery, and the Victron eyelets are connected in the exact same place to the battery.

If I set the IP65 to 4A normal charge, and start the heater, would the heater be able to run at the same time as the battery is charging, or will I have some issues with power or surges or anything like that, leading to possible damage of the Espar D2 heater's ECU?

Any help / advice is greatly appreciated.

I want to stop charging if Soc is 80% and restart charging im Soc is less than 40%.

I have a Quattro, CCGX und an Ve.Bus BMS (REC-A)

Where can I set this parameter ?

I'm looking at upgrading our boats electrical system to a LiFePO4-based system. As far as the components go, I'm pretty sure I have the configuration figured out. The only thing I cannot determine, is whether our current Victron Phoenix Combi 12/1600/75 Inverter/Charger is compatible with the VE.Bus BMS. The setup I am thinking about is very similar to the example given in the VE.Bus BMS manual, shown below. Can we use our Phoenix Combi in this setup?

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can someone show me a crude drawing of the specific load and charge connections? do I run a wire from the negative bus bar on my panel to the appropriate side of the shunt? how about the battery charger?

Good evening,

One of my 3 chargers caught fire on 24 Jan 2020 about 14:45.

If my wife did not smell something burning the entire solar set up would have gone up in flames.

Question: Is there a component failure danger with these devices. It is clear that the fire originated from behind the display board.

I received no warning email or alarm. The input (PV) fuses as well as out put fuses to battery were still working. The white powder is from the fire extinguisher.

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Hi All,

Could anyone help with this issue please?

I've got 2 smart chargers 1p67 24/12 models. I downloaded the Victron Connect app to connect to them to check the settings but the app would not allow me to connect until I did the firmware updates. The chargers had already been powering on and charging batteries and were working ok, I just wanted to check the settings.

So I followed the prompts and updated the firmware for both chargers through bluetooth.

After this now neither charger will power ON. Both are unresponsive, No led's lighting up or anything. The AC supply is checked and OK, I've isolated them form the batteries and the mains power and reconnected but still no good. Looks like the firmware has killed them??

Thanks

Gerard.

I have recently replaced my shore power charger with a new Phoenix Smart IP43 Charger along with three Victron 110ah batteries.

I've updated the firmware and mostly it's all working ok. But sometimes when I switch on the power the controller just constantly resets itself. All the lights come on, the bluetooth connection is there and then all the lights go off and it restarts. This repeats.

I can stop this resetting cycle by catching the bluetooth connection and switching to "power supply" and then returning to "charger".

Could this be a problem with the AC supply?

New charger worked fine out of the box, 2 weeks later it cycles (clicks) every few seconds and only about 1 amp output and about 4 volts shown on app... Should be around 27 volts. Lights show Bulk and LiPo, as they should, but not getting 7.8 amps like I did initially. Batteries are at 80% and 60 degrees. Same results using 3 amp output setting. Smart BMV shows spikes on the graph matching the clicking.

Phoenix Smart IP43 Charger no Smart Battery Sense function.

When will the Smart Battery Sense function be added? in the Phoenix Smart IP43 Charger

Hello.

I have a MultiPlus 12/2000 in our RV. We have an imbalance issue with our lithium cells that causes an overvoltage condition when absorption charging. Obviously this is not an issue when inverting off the house bank, but connecting to shore power and setting the inverter "On" (in order to energize the relay that connects the MP's AC input to the AC output) also inevitably turns on the charger, eventually tripping the OV relay and shutting down the whole rig. The cell balance issue will get resolved in time, but meanwhile I would like to be able to use shore power.

I see that someone else asked about this issue here, and was told they could use an assistant to set the charge voltage to 0V. I looked in VE.Config and found the "charge current assistant". This seems to allow me to set the charge current to 0V, but also allows "disabling the charger when the charge current should be zero". Does anyone know whether to check this box; i.e., whether disabling the charger would also disconnect the passthrough relay?

Thanks!

/afb

Hi,

I am considering installing a Victron QUATTRO with Pylontech 48V batteries. I would initially purchase 4 batteries to give me around 12kWhr when new. I would like to later add another 4 batteries - maybe 5 years down the track.

I suspect that just paralleling the old and new would be a bad idea due to the original batteries having aged and lost capacity. It would seem better to have two separate battery banks and treat each separately for charging and discharging.

Is this possible?

If so, how would this be accomplished?

What would be the recommended way to add more batteries at a later stage?

thank you,

Ron

I have an Isolation Transformer 3600 and a Quattro 8000. When I plug into the mains it takes about an hour for the charger to click in. When I run the genny it clicks in in a matter of seconds. Grateful if somebody could throw a little light on this.

Hi,

what voltage does the Blue Smart Charger range supply when in power supply mode?

thanks

Hello Everyone!

Recently got "Blue Smart IP65 Charger" to help getting trough the winter months, and it keeps shutting down, after which I'm unable to get it to turn on for up to 12 hours or so.

I have attached it directly to the 100ah AGM battery and it was running in parallel with my MPPT controller.

Could this have damaged the charger? Didn't see anything in the documentation about this.

Thanks for any info.

Hi everyone. I asked a question recently regarding disabling Bulk protection mode on a Phoenix battery charger. The thread is here:

https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/36530/phoenix-battery-charger-bulk-protection.html

During the investigation, with assistance from Victron support staff; we found that we were able to disable bulk protection by connecting a MK2 programming lead and using VEconfigure. So that's our Phoenix charger sorted.

So following on from that, now I have the same question and problem...but with the Skylla Charger. To be clear, this is the older non-I version of the chargers. We have several models installed, all are 24V versions ranging from 24/30 up to 24/100. The boards do not have an RJ45 port so I can't try the VEconfigure trick again. There is another connector on the board which looks like an IDC type ribbon connector, not sure what this is for though. Can't see anywhere else to plug anything in. There are DIP switches but none of these are allocated to bulk protection (according to the manual).

The manual says that after 10 hours of bulk charge, the chargers will switch to float mode to protect the battery. We have not observed this behaviour with our chargers. Our chargers will instead shut off and the fail LED will flash the code for bulk protection activated. These fault codes are not in the original manual but are in the manual for the Skylla-I and appear to be the same. If the charger is switched off/on again charging will recommence for another 10 hours but then the same will happen. Luckily, most of our sites that have these fitted have remote control generators instead of mains power so as long as we monitor our battery voltages we can tell when a charger has gone into Bulk protection mode and reset the generator to carry on charging.

Example: We have a 3000Ah battery bank that was discharged to 23.5V. It took over 30hours bulk charge with a Skylla 24/100 set to 100A charge to charge this back up. During this time I had to:

1. Start generator locally and then leave site. Charger operates at 100A Bulk for 10 hours.

2. After 10 hours, remote monitoring showed that battery voltage had dropped back down to 24V, charger failed on bulk protection.

3. Remote reset generator. Battery voltage seen to increase to 26V on charge again as Skylla is reset.

4. Repeat 2 and 3 every 10 hours

It wouldn't be so bad if the charger did what the manual said and went to float mode, at least this would eventually charge the batteries back up without our intervention, (not ideal charging voltages though). We can't go any higher with our charge currents, we've got 16mm feeders and that's it, space is tight.

So is there any way to do what we did with the Phoenix chargers and disable this mode? Or alternatively make the charger go into float mode instead of failing?

Cheers, Si

Hi everyone. I've got a snag on one of our installations. There are 3 24V battery banks A200 of 12x2V cells 225Ah total capacity each bank. Each is charged using Phoenix 24/16 charger using default factory settings.

During a recent inspection, we depleted each bank to around 23.5V and then charged them back up again. Each Phoenix charger failed after between 6-7 hours. There is a solid red fail LED illuminated but nothing else.

For the main bank, we swapped in another phoenix and exactly the same problem after 6-7 hours. A skylla-TG 24/50 was then installed instead and set to 16A charge current. This failed after 10 hours with a flashing bulk, steady fail LEDs. This indicates bulk protection mode has kicked in (there is conflicting info in the manuals, one of them says it will swap straight to float, but another manual says it will fail with LED code as above).

So I'm thinking we need to increase the charging current to at least 25A for a c/10 rate. I manually set it to 40A just to get the batteries recharged and this worked fine.

My question is. Is this what is causing the Phoenix 16A chargers to fail also? I looked at the manual and also in google. There is no mention of this series having bulk protection mode. Also, if there is bulk protection mode does it default to 6-7 hours? We had exactly the same issue last year on another site, with both phoenix chargers failing after 6-7 hours but just gave up and swapped them for skyllas which have been fine. I can't believe that all our phoenix chargers are faulty though. This does not happen in float mode with already charged batteries, only after bulk mode has been on for 6-7 hours (best I can do from telemetry indications). The ambient temperature is around 10-15 degrees C and there is around 2 feet spacing around each charger. They do not get hot and the fans are working. The batteries are 2 years old. On the other site, they were 3 years old. Fitting a skylla removes the issue (at both sites).

Just to be clear. These are the Phoenix chargers, not the inverter/ multiplus units.

My Skyla 1+1 24/80 220V stopped charging. When the unit gets power it puts out 74A for a couple seconds and quits. The 24V, On, Bulk and Abs LED lights stay on but no power output. I have been in the same marina for a month now and nothing was changed. Power at the unit is 240V with 30A breaker.

Hi - I just got the Blue Smart IP67 charger. It states that for Lithium-ion batteries, the charging voltage is 14.2V, and float is 13.5V. My batteries are rated differently: 14.6V/13.8V. Is there a way to reconfigure the charger with the proper voltage? I couldn't find such option in the app. Appreciate any help!

Hi, I have the above inverter/charger on my narrowboat.

For the last few days the orange float light has stayed constantly on, even when the charger is switched off or in boost or equalise phases (charged using a diesel generator).

Fairly standard narrowboat set up with 3 x 110ah leisure batteries.

Had anyone seen this issue before, and is it likely to be a problem?

Many thanks for any advice!

Hello guy's

I've got an issue with an old Phoenix Multiplus compact 12/2000/80 on firmware 1871148.hex ...

My problem is that the value for the low level battery is at 12.4v and it turn off inverter at 12.3V ...

And the second issue is that the charger don't want to be turned on even if its plugged on a generator ( i try 1000w and 2000w generator) and not even when i plug it on the grid ... when i turn the multiplus on charger only i can hear a "Clac" in it, but doesn't work anyway ...

So i almost buy the MK3 Pc ve.bus to change the settings and maybe see if the problem came with some wrong value in it =)

But i read on some victron page that this 1871148 firmware has no Ve.bus (and my pcm have only one rs485 connector that proove that my multiplus has no Ve.Bus)

So can i upagrade it any way ? the Mk3 can work or maybe i read somewhere that i can try with the old Mk2 ? but its a lil bit expansive and i can't buy the two just for a try ^^'

Do you have some ideas why the charger dont want to turn on even on the grid ? or ideas for the limit value of the inverter ?

Thanx for helping me guys and sorry for my approximate english, i'm french ! ;)