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Ve.Bus RJ45 cabling order

Is there a proper order for cabling the following Ve.Bus devices?
(Usually with a 'bus' order doesn't matter.)

DMC GX (required for current limiter when using a Ve.Bus BMS)
Ve.Bus BMS (required for Victron SmartLithium batteries)
Ve.Bus Mains Detector (to allow for DC start when AC is present)
Inverter/charger 1 (split phase)
Inverter/charger 2 (split phase)
CCGX

In a full Ve.Bus chain of devices, the Ve.Bus BMS manual suggests that there is a preferred order (page 4): https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Manual-VE-BUS-BMS-EN-NL-FR-DE-SE.pdf

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This leads me to believe that there is a required Ve.Bus order of devices which with this equipment list would be:
DMC GX -> Ve.Bus BMS -> Mains Detector -> Quattro1(leader) -> Quattro2(follower) -> CCGX

Can Victron confirm this order requirement?

I guess this leads to a bunch of other related questions such as:

Do the specific ports on the Ve.Bus BMS have to be used as labelled?
Remote to DMC GX, and Ve.Bus to the Mains Detector, before the Inverter(s)?

Is there some unspoken addressing conflict if these are wired out-of-order?
Is it that the DMC is on the same address as the CCGX, where we are hiding the DMC behind the Remote port on the Ve.Bus BMS is required?


The DMC manual seems to suggest that you can connect it directly to an inverter which indicates its a Ve.Bus Device, but the Ve.Bus instructions indicate otherwise.
https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Manual-Digital-Multi-Control-GX-Panel-EN-NL-FR-DE-ES.pdf

Thanks,
Nate

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Is DMC GX still required for systems with Ve.Bus BMS for changing input current limiter?

Is the DMC GX still required for systems with a Ve.Bus BMS for changing the input current limiter?

The CCGX manual suggests that the DMC GX is still required if you have a Ve.Bus BMS:
From: https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#vebus_inverter_charger_monitoring

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Are the current limit settings, which are now present in the CCGX, sufficient for for controlling input currents in systems with Ve.Bus BMS batteries without the need of a DMC GX?

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Thank you,
Nate

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Lights flashing on digital multi control

Electrician on board today and changed wiring for secondary charger. Should not effect MultiPlus or digital multi control. Ran the boat back to anchor and when arrived 4 lights in left column of digital multi control and inverter on light flashing. Turned switch to off, no change. Turned Multi Plus off and then on, then turned Multi Plus back to on. Inverter working. But no lights on Multi Plus. Not sure if charger working.

bestkidspa asked

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Recommended current limit setting for a digital multi control panel

I have a digital multi control panel along with MultiPlus Compact 12/2000/80, what is the recommended setting for the current limit?

warnersw asked
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Is the Digital Multi Control still required with a CCGX+MultiPlus?

When I built a Victron system on my boat about 2 years ago with a MultiPlus, Victron LiFePO4 battery and VE.Bus BMS, you had to have a DMC connected as well if you wanted to set shore side power limits, as the CCGX would not allow you to do so.


I thought I remembered seeing that this was ONLY the case with the VE.Bus BMS, which I am not using in a new install, and potentially not required at all anymore with a recent CCGX firmware upgrade. Can anyone confirm this?


To be clear, the components I would be installing Victron-wise are:

  • MultiPlus 12v / 110vac / 3000w / 120a charge
  • CCGX
  • BMV-712

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Multiplus 12/1600/70 with MK3 - How to use multiple devices with a single VE.bus port?

Hi all,

I want to use a raspberry as the venus device. I want to connect my MPPT 100-50, BMV712 with the VE-Bus and my Multiplus with the MK3 Interface.

But I want to use the normal remote control the digital multicontrol 200/200a too. Is there a way to connect all 3 devices (multiplus, multicontrol and MK3) at the same time ? As far as I know all three divices have only one RJ45 connector.

Thanks for help

Hoagie

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Can the Digital multi control be connected to a VEBus Phoenix?

Is it possible to remote switch a Victron Phoenix Off/On using a Digital multi control instead of a Phoenix inverter control?

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Problem Connecting digital multi control to 24/3000/70 Multi plus issue

When I connect the control to the inverter all I get is all lights sequentially blinking on both inverter and charger side of control - no further connection. Tried changing cable out - no difference. Trying to determine if the unit is faulty, My firmware version is 2712413 - ideas - solutions should be plug and play? Thanks for your help.

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CCGX & Venus GX vs Digital Multi GX incoming amp control

Just trying to clearify. Why do I see people connecting both a Digital Multi GX and CCGX to a system with a Multiplus? Does the CCGX have the ability to turn on and off Multiplus and control the incoming amperage? I don't want to spend money on both.

Tom asked
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Color Control GX and external transfer switch

I am currently using a MultiPlus with Digital Multi Control GX. I use the input of DMC for integration with an external transfer switch (for grid and a genset - since they have different power capabilities). What I would like to add is remote monitoring and control, including the possibility to remotely change Multi modes (On/Off/Charger). I was thinking of adding a Color Control GX, but I have concerns. The problem as I see it is that if I keep the DMC in the system, the On/Off functionality in Color Control GX will be disabled, and I will not be able to use it remotely. If I remove the DMC, there will be no place to connect the input from the external transfer switch - since Color Control GX does not seem to provide this functionality. Is there a way to solve this and have both remote monitoring and control and integration with a transfer switch?

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Connecting to 120 shore power trips breaker

Have a Multiplus 12/120/3000 with 4-100 amp hour Lithium batteries in series installed in our fifth wheel trailer. Everything has been working great and as it should, but I recently tried to plugin to a standard 120 wall outlet just to trickle charge the batteries while parked in a friends driveway and it would trip the breaker. I tried turning off everything via my breaker panel in my trailer that wasn't necessary to see if it was a load issue...still trips. I also played around with the current limiter settings on my victron digital multi control...nothing made a difference. Multi control was set to charger only. Has anyone else had any issues like this? Maybe something else I can look into to try. Please advise? Thank you in advance :)

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Equalize with Multipuls 12/3000 and Digital Multicontrol.

I have a Multiplus 12/3000 with the Digital Multicontrol display. Can I get the Multiplus to equalize somehow?

groger asked
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Hooking Up a Digital Multi Control with CCGX and BMV700

I am trying to figure out how to get the ability to control the inverter on a Multiplus from a remote panel. I don't see the option on the Color Control and thought I needed a Digital Multi-Control to do this. The system has the color control and a BVM700 attached to the system. Thoughts on where to hook the Digital Multi-Control?

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Multiplus and CCGX DMC and VE Bus disconnect

The site has 3 multiplus units all on 459 firmware all in parallel

the site works fine using the DCM or the CCGX NOW but connect both and the DMC works fine but the CCGX keeps dropping out and then back on then out again

by this I mean it shows the correct infor then the info drops out and the display says OFF, however the DMC still stays working and so does do the inverters

I have tried new cables and changed them ALL to Cat 6 Cables with plastic plug ends

History

1. first of all I installed the CCGX to the site with the DCM connected and all worked well. this had a 20 mtr cat 5 cable from the inverters to the ccgx then a 1 mtr to the DMC the CCGX on 2.23 FW

2. then I changed the inverters battery cable lengths so they where all identical

3. I then upgraded the firmware from 419 to 459

After the above had been done

The CCGX would not connect AT all and I also could not get a connection with the MK3 but the MK2 would work.

I then ran a temp new victron cat 5 - 10 mtr cable and the CCGX would then work but connect the DCM and the CCGX would go off line, use a 5 mtr cable and all worked fine, but this is way to short and I cant leave it like that on the boat.

I then had the original cable shortened to the Min length I could get about 9 mtrs, and the inverter interconnects also replaced with cat 6 and shortened it min lengths posable.

in the end to even get the CCGX to work on and off on off etc I shortened the ve bus internect cables and this then allowed the CCGX to work abate not to well, I even tried putting it up to the release candidate firmware as well

Now the CCGX works in and out when the DMC is connected but fine on its own.

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My suspicions are that the VE bus signal from the inverters has decreased in output power somehow, with the firmware upgrade.

the site is available via VRM if needed its setup as B2 on my site list plus the DMC is not currently connected so the CCGX and the VRM are working fine.

Note the CCGX is using the victron wifi dongle

Any one got any fancy ideas or tips


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All light flashing on Digital Multi Control 200/200A GX

Your browser does not support HTML5 video.I just finished putting a Quattro with a Digital Multi Control GX panel. and all things worked fine yesterday. But today all the lamps and the inverter lamp are blinking, but only on the Digital Multi Control not on the Quattro 24/5000 some ideas of what it can be?

Kasper asked
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Problem connecting Digital Multi Control to Multi 12/3000/230

I'm trying to add a DMC to an existing working system but when I connect the RJ45 cable leading to the remote panel the system shuts down. If I unplug the cable the system returns to life. Toggling the switch on the remote has no effect.

I've tried removing the short (small cable) that is connecting the left and middle points of the manual switch but that results in the system shutting down completely, remote or no remote.

The main switch on the Multiplus is set to 'on' as per the manual.

I'm using Cat 6 cable with 2 x RJ45 connectors.

Am I missing something?

Thanks, Oliver

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How to connect new digital controller to old non-ve multi

I am replacing a Victron 24/16 charger with a charger/inverter. It is a NOS Phoenix 24/3000/70 with 1740133.HEX firmware. I found it locally at a chandlery and it is NOS, never installed, but dusty...

I installed and setup the charger/inverter today. It works fine. The device is in the back of the engine room and I want a remote for it. I ordered one online as in the subject line.

The controller is replacing the old Phoenix charger controller that worked. The CAT6 RJ45 cable is good. I read in the manual to contact Victron for info in connecting to non-VE Multi's. The Victron website directs me here. Anyone have an idea?

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Connecting solar to VRM

Hi I have a new boat with 2 x 8 panel Panasonic 245w Solars going into 2 x 250/100 MPPT and 2 banks of 460 watt 6 volt batteries so 2 banks of 24volt.

I have a 712 blue and a colour control but it wont show my solar input on the colour control or my DC load.

I have seen others that show a lot more than mine?.

Would this be a?setting problem or do I need to purchase more cables etc.

I have venus and 8000kva 24volt quattro

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Panel cut out dimensions for Digital Multi Control Panel GX

I am prefabricating a panel that will cover an existing hole. Planning to use this panel to mount the Digital Multi Control Panel GX that I have ordered. Have searched everywhere for the cut out dimensions but cant find them. Can only find the outer dimensions but not the needed cut out dimensions for the Digital Multi Control Panel GX.

Where can I find the panel cut out dimensions for the Digital Multi Control Panel GX?

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multiplus control inverter via SOC

I have a Multiplus 5000/48V , CCGX display and a DMC

The CCGX generator stop/start function is already in use. Would like to turn off the inverter mode once SOC reaches 45% and re-engage at 50%

What is the best way to achieve this?

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AC input current limit wont go lower than 12 amp
  1. Hello,


My dcm will not go lower on ac1 than 12 amps. In some harbours the shore power is just 6 amps.

How can i get the shore limit on the d lower than 12 amps?

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Digital Multi Control GX can't throttle the AC input low enough

Hello from a US authorized Victron dealer. A newly commissioned system has twin 5k Quattros stacked parallel for 120vAC & using only AC1 for input...nothing connected to AC2 IN. Both Quattros have the latest firmware as of December 2018. Client has the Digital Multi Control DMC...set with the pushbutton on that unit for no more than 30 amps AC in...& in VEconfig we authorized the Remote to "overrule" & determine the shore input amperage. Dialing the radio knob, the digital display is either 30A or 27A, however--not much of a range. We want to be able to adjust for a smaller shore breaker.


The client also owns the Color Control GX & I see the AC IN appears adjustable within the CCGX menus. If we de-commission the DMC & use CCGS for this tweak instead, would we get better granularity on this adjustment & a smaller bottom number?


Other suggestions on how to help my customer in this situation would be greatly appreciated. Thanks & Jolliness~

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