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BlueSmart IP22 3 sorties pour 3 différents type de batteries?

Bonjour,

qui me peut me confirmer que le BlueSmart IP22 3 sorties peut alimenter une batterie gel + une bat de démarrage en même temps ou du moins alternativement en automatique? merci d'avance


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Mit Blue smart ip22 victron smart 200 Ah Laden

Moin

Was muss ich beachten wenn ich meine neue victron smart 200 Ah lifepo4 Batterie, mit meinem blue smart ip22 20 A Ladegerät aufladen möchte? Muss mein v. E bms angeschlossen sein oder gehe ich direkt auf die Batterie? Leider finde ich in dem Ladegerät Handbuch dazu keine Infos. Es geht um die erstaufladung und die soll vernünftig ablaufen.


Mfg


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Blue Smart IP22 charger - multiple output to different battery types (EFB+ & AGM)

Hi, I have a Blue smart IP22 Charger 12/30(3) for my campervan - with the aim to be able to charge both my starter and leisure batteries simultaneously. Currently i have a Varta EFB+ Starter battery and Leoch AGM leisure battery.

From what i have read, EFB batteries should be charged at 14.4V, ("normal" setting), whereas AGM batteries should be charged at 14.7V ("High" setting). With that in mind can i assume i need to upgrade my starter battery to an AGM to allow both batteries to be charged at the same time? ..or can the charger sense the battery types and adjust the voltage accordingly for each?

Many thanks

robot75 asked
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Blue Smart IP65 12/7 not charging battery

Hi,

I have a new charger (Blue smart IP65 12/15) and have tried several times to charge different type of batteries but the charger won't charge any of them. It rapidly passes throw "test" and "bulk" and then stops at "abs" for a couple of hours and after that it stops at "storage". The charger is not configured manually otherwise than with the preset mode (Normal, High, Li-ion). The batteries that I tried are almost empty, half empty or almost full and the charger works the same on all my batteries. I have also tried normal, gel, agm and lifePo4 with the same results - it won't charge the battery!
There is no problem with Bluetooth connection. The charger has no problem to deliver power when I connect it to any kind of equipment. My only problem is that it does not charge any of my batteries!
Please help me out...

ulf-gyhlenius asked
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Issue Charging bms with mppt

Hello,


I have 330w PV panel, 100 20 mppt regulator and 12v battery built with 18650 cells and bms 3s.


Charging input IS 12.6v to 13v.


Thé regulator Never shows more than 20w while Charging. Also, the "battery voltage" in thé main board IS Always equal to thé battery voltage setting even if thé actual battery voltage IS lower.


I have tested with 3s battery without bms, same results, and 12v lead acid battery, same results...


Could thé regulator bé broken ?

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philemon asked
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Noise from BlueSmart 12/30 mains charger

Is it normal for a BlueSmart 12/30 mains charger to make this noise while it operates? It's very loud. The charger's a couple of years old now but has made this noise both times I used it. I find it somewhat disturbing, both audibly and mentally!

Cheers
David

david-johns asked

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Replacing/Coexisting Sargent campervan components with Victron

Good evening,

We are looking into upgrading the battery and solar panel system of our campervan and for that purpose, we think we will need to replace some Sargent components with Victron components.

Currently, we have an 80W solar panel, connected to PWM Regulator (https://sargentltd.co.uk/shop/product/10amp_solar_regulator/122)
The regulator is connected to a EC500 Power Supply Unit (https://sargentltd.co.uk/shop/product/ec500_power_supply_unit/179)
The EC500 PSU can be controlled with EC480 Control Panel (https://sargentltd.co.uk/shop/product/ec480_control_panel/180). The control panel can be used to monitor the solar input for the solar panel, the status of the vehicle battery and the leisure battery. It can also be used to switch the charging from leisure battery to vehicle battery.
Finally, the EC500 PSU is connected to the PX300 charger (https://sargentltd.co.uk/shop/product/px300_charger/152) that is connected to the battery (Lithium LiFeP04 Professional 12 V 110 AH)

We would like to know the following replacement/installation is doable and what product should we aim for?
1) A new Victron MPPT solar charge controller that can handle up to 2 x 100/120W solar panel
2) The output of the Victon MPPT should be fed into the EC500 so that it can be monitored by the EC480
3) A new Victron battery charger that can support up to 2 x Lithium LiFeP04 Professional 12 V 110 AH in parallel (or the vehicle battery). The output should be managed by the EC480 so that it can be switched to charge the 2 Lithium batteries or the vehicle battery as it does today)
4) A new Victron 1200W pure sinus inverter where the output is connected to the EC500 in such a way that the existing 220V sockets in the van can be used with normal appliances (in the same way as connected to the mains)

Any good suggestion is most welcome.

Thank you!

amidships asked
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Replacement for Sargent PX-300 charger

I have a (2017) Swift Select motorhome, complete with Sargent EC500 system, including the PX-300 charger/power supply.

As the PX-300 is a low-tech charger (wasn't designed to meet the needs of modern AGM batteries etc) I want to replace the PX-300 with a suitable Victron unit. Current preference is the 25 amp BlueSmart IP67 charger (the PX-300 is also 25 Amp). As an alternative I could fit the BlueSmart IP22 - however this is only available in 20 and 30 amp outputs. (30 is too much, but I think the 20 would be fine.


The crux of my question relates to the 12v 'mains on' trigger feed I need to send back to the EC500. Sargents PX-300 PSU has a 12v output which is used to tell the EC500 that the mains is connected so the system knows that mains is available. How could I achieve this with a Victron charger? (data sheet/manual is on this link: https://sargentltd.co.uk/shop/product/px300_charger/152)


I'm considering:

A: buying the 20A BlueSmart IP22 unit with 3 outputs, and using one of these as the trigger for the EC500 'mains on signal'- however this seems like overkill and means I lose 5amps of power (as Victron don't do a 25amp version of this charger, and 30A would be more than my 130Ah leisure batt could take)

B: buying the 25A BlueSmart IP67 unit and using some sort of diode arrangement so that the 'mains on' signal would work when 12 is flowing from the charger to the battery, but not when power is flowing only from the battery - however this would be a real faff to set up and wouldn't be particularly elegant.

I've noticed on the pictures of the IP67, there's also a small orange cable - however it isn't clear what this is for and the manuals don't mention it. Is it possible this is a 12v trigger feed - or is this a temperature probe or similar?


Any thoughts would be very welcome. I'm confident others will have done this - so please share your experience.

Kind regards, Richard

24x7x365 asked
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VE Direct - chain devices for monitoring?

I just got my first Victron controller (BlueSolar 75/15) and am very pleased with it, and finally decided to swap out my old and junky inverter with the very solidly made Phoenix 12/250 unit. So far so good - basically I only need to charge my laptop and tool batteries with 220v when working in the garden.

However I do want to know how much current my inverter is pulling and have that tracked on the Android app (I'm a techie and a bit of a control freak - it's why I'm replacing my garden setup bit by bit with better equipment) and am a bit dismayed that the BlueSolar charge controller is not able to poll the Phoenix inverter for status and current amp consumption (I know now that this is approximate, but hey, it's a garden!). I understand that VE Direct is a bidirectional serial bus, so it would make total sense that a user can chain the devices using VE Direct instead of having to buy a € 50 Bluetooth dongle - or the € 150 smart shunt! Actually, I'd even be willing to pay €2 a month for a premium app version instead...

I am positing that a vast majority of the first-generation users of Victron tech are like me - two batteries, maybe 100w of solar, a good charge controller and matching inverter. So why can't I have the BlueSolar charge controller front the inverter for monitoring?

Am is missing a trick?

dane-manes asked
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Is it possible to see status of 2 batteries on app Victron Blue Smart IP22 12/15 (3)?

I see status of 1 battery; it's not clear which battery though. How do I know? The charger is charging both batteries (measured by electrician).

frankmsmit asked
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Which IP22 charger to buy (10A/20A/30A) for two battery sizes?

Hi,


I plan to buy a Blue Smart IP22 charger for my two cars, but wonder which one is most suitable:

Car 1 has a 95Ah AGM lead acid battery

Varta recommends to charge these with I=0,25C to 0,35C, so between 24A and 33A

Car 2 has a 70Ah flooded (conventional) lead acid battery

Varta recommends to charge these with I=0,1C to 0,15C, so between 7A and 11A


The IP22 12/30 would charge the AGM battery fastest, but is it safe to charge the 70Ah battery in low/night 15A mode? That would equal 0,21C and exceed Varta's recommendation.


I'm a bit puzzled, because the C values in the Victron IP22 manual seem very high:

IP22 12/10A -> minimum battery size = 30Ah (0,33C)

IP22 12/20A -> minimum battery size = 40Ah (0,5C)

IP22 12/30A -> minimum battery size = 60Ah (0,5C)


Cheers,

Robin.

robin-bloemberg asked

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Blue Smart IP22 12/30 (3) - Error LED

Your browser does not support HTML5 video.What does this error means. Happens after connecting to AC. See attached video.

jake asked
Thiemo van Engelen (Victron Energy staff) commented ·

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Blue Smart Charger stuck on Bulk Charge for hours

I'm charging my Battleborn LifePO4 using the Lithium-ion preset and it's been stuck on Bulk Charge @ 13.7V for hours now. Is this normal?

manny-martinez asked
Stefanie commented ·

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Blue Smart Charger 12/25 output instability when overdrawn (power theory questions)

Hello, All. I recently wired up a 12V-28V 20A 560W DC-DC converter as an alternate input to solar for my Blue SmartSolar MPPT 100/30. Works perfectly to charge my portable battery unit at full SmartSolar 30A output when connected to the 250A alternator in my vehicle, which can handily supply the ~32A converter draw expected for the ~426W input power reported by my SmartSolar 100/30.

When I tried testing my Blue Smart IP67 12/25 in Power Supply mode set at 14V and max 25A output, as input for the DC-DC converter, however, instead of supplying 25A and sitting there, it heads there and then resets to 0, then heads there again and resets to 0, repeatedly. I had hoped that it would supply as much as it could, that is, up to 25A reliably and sit there, stably, which it does when operating as a charger, despite my battery being able to accept up to 100A charge.

I guess it makes sense that the current /draw/ is the governing factor, which is why circuit fuses exist. Try to draw more than the circuit is rated for and the fuse/breaker blows. And I suspect that the BMS built into the battery must limit the current draw to whatever the charger is offering. But I'm not a power expert, and would welcome input.

Why does it (power draw and supply, and battery charging) work this way? How do the charger and battery negotiate the current rate, and why isn't the Blue Smart charger in PSU mode able to supply up to max but no more? A pointer to some useful reading or reference material would be great. Thanks.

abeness asked

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Blue Smart IP67 with Orion Tr Smart for AGM and Lithium

I have a Blue Smart IP67 shore power charger on my group 31agm truck battery linked to my Victron smart solar and a 100w panel. I'm going to add a 12v lithium 100ah house battery soon. Can I add in the Victron Orion dc-dc charger in the mix? If I leave the Blue Smart set to charge AGM, will the Orion and MPPT charge the Lithium house battery? Or do I need to disconnect the shore charger from starting battery completely?

It's my daily driver, so keeping the starting battery charged isn't really a problem, but the Blue Smart charger is already connected there with a 4awg wire running to the back of the truck connecting to the MPPT.

rko133 asked

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IP22, IP65, and IP67 differences. Need a 200ah AGM charger for a campervan.

Hi,

As the title suggests I am trying to compare the three different battery chargers for a 240v-12volt electric hook up system on a VW Crafter MWB 4x4 camper.

I am fully aware of the weatherproofing differences but I am trying to find out if there are any other differences and if so which one would be better for a 200ah AGM battery bank? I am based in the UK just in case that makes any difference.

matmah asked
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Blue Smart 12/30 IP22 skipping bulk charge

Victron Lifepo4 200Ah is currently at 3.13V per cell. Expected behaviour of the charger after switching it on: It should bulk charge the battery (LiIon-Mode enabled) with up to 30A and switch to absorption charge after the battery ist almost charged completely.

What the blue smart device does instead: It bulk charges for ~2s (yes, seconds...) and switches immediately to absorption charge for the next 2 hours with ~6A (decreasing over time). So the battery is never charged to its full capacity...

All parameters in victron connect app seem to be correct. 'Charged voltage' in BMS ist set to 14.0V, blue smart charges with 14.2V. Did I get something wrong? Any suggestion are welcome.


Florian Michel asked
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Wiring 3 parallel batteries with IP22 w/3 outputs

Hi,

I have a smaller motorboat with 3 parallel batteries. 1 starter and 2 consumer batteries.
I have bought an IP22 Blue Smart with 3 outputs, and I wonder how to connect them to the charger correctly.

I have made an figure of how I suppose is the correct way, but I am unsure if it really is that simple?
Should I add fuses on any of the wires?

Thanks a lot in advance for your support.

BR - Pjet Barn

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Optimal charge settings for lifep04 while in use

I have a 100Ah Lifep04 and a Blue smart 25A charger in my boat. My goal is to keep the battery in a 40-80% charge state while using it for electronics and lights and such. I currently have absorption charge at 14,20V Float disabled, storage at 13,40V and absorption time at 0,5 hours.

tharayman asked

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Top balancing Lifepo4 with IP22 ?

I am planning to get an IP22 12/30, and build a 12v Lifepo4.

Would you pls.let me know if I could set the charger to a CC/CVmode (continuous current/voltage) to do a top balancing of each cell? I hope to avoid buying a power supply just for the top balancing.

Thank you

gkis asked
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Ip65 stuck in storage mode

I have an ip65 blue non smart charger and a mppt solar controller installed in my offroad caravan. I noticed that my agm battery almost competely discharged while plugged into 220v. The ip65 still being in storage mode. Thought it could be as a result of mppt controller but parked under roof so solar also not charging.

Is the ip65 not supposed to wakeup and move to bulk? Any ideas what could cause this and how to fix? Ip65 is non blue tooth so cannot update settings.

thedussst asked
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Bluesmart IP67 12/25 hardware version concerns

I ordered an IP67 12/25 through Amazon (US). Both the Victron website and the Amazon product info state this is a 7-stage charger. The box states that I received a 4-stage charger. The manual states this is a 5-stage charger.

A label indicates that I received hardware revision 02. I am concerned that I may not have received the latest hardware.

Can you please advise if this is the latest hardware and if not, what is the latest hardware revision and what are the differences?

I am concerned that the capabilities and features I read about while researching this purchase may not be implemented in the version of the hardware that I received.

Specifically, I am looking to use the advanced configuration features to program the charger with custom settings for a Northstar Red 190FT HT lead agm battery as well as for LiFePO4 batteries and to use it as a power supply for amateur radio operations.


Daniel Hallmark asked
abeness answered ·

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Ip67 12/25 capacity

The ip67 manual sets the max battery size that can be charged at 225ah. (‘The charger is designed for lead-acid and Li-ion batteries 14-225Ah. Do not use for any other purpose‘). I am currently charging a 200ah lithium bank but would like to go to 300ah. Would this require changing the charger, and if so which charger would be suitable?

Thanks

Tim

tim22 asked
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Blue smart charger 12/25 dies during firmware update

Hi, did a firmware update on my blue smart charger 12/25 and got to about 94-94% when the unit died on me. all lights shut off. No bluetooth connectivity after this. Disconnected from batteries and measure approx 18 volts output. But unit seems dead. Any way of resetting the unit? Can i get someone to load new firware trough a backdoor or something? or is the unit finished?

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2xBlue smart IP22 charger 12/30 (3) parallel on LiFePo4 questions

Usecase: REC ABMS connected to 12x 272Ah cells (Lishen), 3 parallel and 4 series (12V). Charging with 2x Blue Smart IP22 30A, Smart Solar 75/15 and TS800C-50.

The manual of the Blue smart IP22 is very limited with respect to its behavior of the "Lion" setting. First it doesn't feel right they call it "Lion" while LiFePo4 is a total different chemistry, but as they put LiFePo4 between () I assume this mode is for LiFePo4. Anyone that can confirm this?

Can someone explain how the charger behaves in the "Lion" mode?

I want to parallel two of these chargers. Is this going to cause any problems? Do I need to use the "Lion" mode or is it better to use the power-supply mode when putting in parallel?

From what I understood (e.g. https://marinehowto.com/lifepo4-batteries-on-boats/) LiFePo4 is very sensitive to overcharging. Even with low voltages (~13,5V) the battery can be killed when current is applied after 100% SoC is reached (very low internal R). So it is very important to stop charging when the current does reach a certain threshold (ideally SoC based), or to control this externally using a BMS. Anyone that can comment on this?

joep asked

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Help with charging 2 batteries from 1 charger

Hi this may be a stupid question but I'll ask it anyway. A customer has come to me with a victron 230v 3 output 30a 12v charger. He has a bus with 2 12volt agm batteries. They are wired in series for 24 volt but he also has a 12 volt system so he takes that from one of the 2 batteries. I know this isn't ideal but it's what he has. My question is can I wire up each battery to 2 of the outputs on the charger? Will this charge each battery individually depending on individual voltages or will it put the same voltage to both? Is this the best way to do it as one of the batteries gets discharged more due to it supplying 12v as well as the 24v in series. Any info would be great.

Jake Kennedy asked
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how to prevent overcharge with Blue Smart charger 24v 16A

Hi, Im having a bit of a problem with a Charger.

The system currently is being used a battery backup for controlling valves when the power fails.

I have 2 x E-Guard Battery NH12-100W 12V 28Ah hooked up to produce 24V.

Being charged by a Victron Blue Smart Charger 24V 16A. But now, only a week into the use both batteries have shown bulging. The installer now claims that the charger is too big for the batteries.

I would just like to confirm the correct battery configuration /recommended changes to be used/made to supply 12amps max load @ 24vdc for 5minutes without damaging the batteries when charging.

Thank you in advance for any help offered.

Kind regards.

Leigh.

salty asked
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Blue charger ip65 12/5 does switch on

My relatively new Blue charger ip65 12/5 does switch on when power is applied.

Is there a soft fuse that can be reset ?

kevinjw asked
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First time charging

Hi

I have a blue smart 12/10 ip65 charger

I want to charge my VW T6 Stop/start van AGM battery as been standing.

Simple question but I cannot find a definitive answer-do i need to disconnect battery leads or can i just put croc clips on and let it do its stuff!

Thanks in advance


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