# Phasing out the Node-RED Dynamic ESS implementation

**URL:** <https://community.victronenergy.com/t/phasing-out-the-node-red-dynamic-ess-implementation/30859>\
**Category:** Node-RED\
**Tags:** dynamic\_ess, dess, vrm\
**Created:** [2 May 2025 12:20 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/phasing-out-the-node-red-dynamic-ess-implementation/30859 "2025-05-02T12:20:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![UpCycleElectric](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/upcycleelectric/32/36895_2.png) [@UpCycleElectric](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/UpCycleElectric)\
**Post date:** [9 May 2025 15:39 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/phasing-out-the-node-red-dynamic-ess-implementation/30859/4 "2025-05-09T15:39:25Z")

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> [@BartChampagne](#):
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> Currently I’m on VenusOS v3.55 and running a more or less Hybrid DESS setup, using the VRM-API in Node Red, [Dognose’s DESS Hack](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/dess-hack-unexpected-bat2grid-and-solar-feedin-green-mode/5432) (scheduled to be included and improved in v3.60 iirc) and some custom Node Red voodoo.
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> Among the things I’m overriding:
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> - forced grid consumption / charging at negative grid prices
> - scheduled charging at low grid prices to anticipate a large load later (charging my 22.5kWh electric motorcycle mostly)
> - manipulating grid target (depending on grid prices, anticipated load & solar forecast etc) to force consumption from grid and all solar to the battery
> - triggering external actions

@BartChampagne could you share some of that node red voodoo?  
I’m just starting with node red (see : [Dynamic ESS: manual set energy price for each hour - #7 by UpCycleElectric](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/dynamic-ess-manual-set-energy-price-for-each-hour/31589/7)) to automated a boost charger on our trade (test) installation.  
Next step concerns the phenomenon that in the morning before new pricing becomes available, prices already tend to be low a few hours earlier but DESS won’t start charging because it does not _see_ any selling opportunity beyond midnight. And once pricing roles in is too late to charge up for it.

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