# NodeRed Victron Virtual Switches in Gui\_v2 - order? **URL:** \ **Category:** Node-RED\ **Tags:** venus\_os, virtual\_switch, node-red, gx\_device\ **Created:** [6 March 2026 10:18 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/nodered-victron-virtual-switches-in-gui-v2-order/54454 "2026-03-06T10:18:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Basti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@Basti](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/Basti)\ **Post date:** [6 March 2026 10:18 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/nodered-victron-virtual-switches-in-gui-v2-order/54454/1 "2026-03-06T10:18:51Z")
Hello. Am implementing some virtual switches to the gui of venusos frm node-red. I get how to group them (by giving a group name), but I can’t find the option to set an order within one group and with that currently have a structural mess. Similar question for the groups: How do I order the groups I created to show in a logical/useful order? Need: MySwitch1 MySwitch2 MySwitch2 But get random order (which makes sense as long I did not give an order): MySwitch2 MySwitch3 MySwitch1 ---
**Author:** ![dfaber](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/dfaber/32/13_2.png) [@dfaber](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/dfaber)\ **Post date:** [6 March 2026 12:01 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/nodered-victron-virtual-switches-in-gui-v2-order/54454/2 "2026-03-06T12:01:50Z")
It should be alphabetically ordered. If not, please post a screenshot + venus version. ---
**Author:** ![Basti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@Basti](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/Basti)\ **Post date:** [6 March 2026 16:55 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/nodered-victron-virtual-switches-in-gui-v2-order/54454/3 "2026-03-06T16:55:48Z")
Hello. Yes, you are correct, it is in alphabetical order (v3.70). I did not check that, good to know. However: For certain arrangements switches in alphabetical order are not desirable, they very much need to be arrangable in a logical order. I am running into all kinds of limitations (see my other posts, would especially be great to get some input in regards to [charger limit/DVCC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/dvcc-activated-v3-70-noess-limit-grid-charging-trough-multiplus2-in-a-flexible-way-how/54265/5)) - limitations which I think are so unnecessary, because it seems to be so basic what is needed/demanded. If only alphabetical woks as of today, I wonder about two things: 1st: Did you guys not consider that alphabetical might be the wrong order from a logical switch arrangement perspective? All other software usually has something like a “weight” setting for a visual element - simple and effective. 2nd: Will there be an update, is the usefulness of an order-option aside from alphabetical recognized? I mean, I could name my switches 1-name, 2-name, etc. But how shall that look on the end-user screen, not very professional from my perspective. ---
**Author:** ![OHeilpern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OHeilpern](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/OHeilpern)\ **Post date:** [9 March 2026 01:25 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/nodered-victron-virtual-switches-in-gui-v2-order/54454/4 "2026-03-09T01:25:05Z")
I created an order by using numbers like this screenshot ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/original/3X/b/1/b1a5a3d70b4f71a7ba2fc597e2e843da9ab2cac6.png) ---
**Author:** ![aussiealf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@aussiealf](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/aussiealf)\ **Post date:** [15 March 2026 11:03 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/nodered-victron-virtual-switches-in-gui-v2-order/54454/5 "2026-03-15T11:03:42Z")
I am also wondering about ordering for an example if have Tank 1 Tank 2 Tank 3 Tank External Mains So the issues is Mains ends up on top, Having an Index property would be good.