# How do I make use of Solar Priority via offline CCGX? **URL:** \ **Category:** DIY\ **Tags:** rv, ccgx\_color\_control, beginner, vrm\ **Created:** [29 July 2025 23:09 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311 "2025-07-29T23:09:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DrAlexHarrison](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/dralexharrison/32/31531_2.png) [@DrAlexHarrison](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/DrAlexHarrison)\ **Post date:** [29 July 2025 23:09 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/1 "2025-07-29T23:09:31Z")
## Question Is there a way to get a CCGX which is not connected to the internet to use solar power “before” shore power? (that I know of, and hasn’t in 5+ years, per VRM “Installation last seen 5 yrs ago”) I’m interested in customizing energy usage further via Node-RED or other, but will prioritize stable Solar Priority usage before I try to get fancy. ## Our Victron System specs: 2019 pro install of: - Quattro 5000W - MPPT 150|80 - BMV712 Smart - CCGX (Gen1?) - 1800W solar on roof - 4x150Ah 24V batteries - VE.bus battery manager? _(it’s in a corner, and dusty, can’t read, never touched it before)_ _AM SOLAR in Oregon did the install. Highly Recommend. I’ve reached out but want to try the community here, too!_ ## Where I’m at My system engagement has been as follows: I use Victron Connect app occasionally, CCGX daily, and occasionally physically toggle off the whole system. I should be considered novice and an eager learner. 🙂 ## What I’ve done so far I have downloaded the Solar Priority manual for my Quattro here [Manuals - Victron Energy](https://www.victronenergy.com/support-and-downloads/manuals#item=manuals-quattro) but there is no “Advanced” tab in the Victron Connect app (v6.19) that I’m currently using, and I can’t connect to my CCGX (presumably because it doesn’t have BT or WiFi capabilities). ## What I need I think I need a “Solar Priority guide for older off-grid RV CCGX systems run by dummies.” Any first steps are greatly appreciated. I notice there are many BT & WiFi dongles of varying physical connection type available online, but would love some reliable answers on what it is that I need to do, before I start buying and connecting things at random. I think I need my CCGX to have connectivity becauge GPT tells me so. ## Where our Victron system is installed: All installed in 2019 on 42-foot 2007 Newmar All-Star (Class A RV), and have been DIY running it since. 50-50 off-grid / shore, living and working in it full-time. We have high daily draws. Multiple AC units, multiple desktop computers on 24/7, etc. We work full-time from the computers. We spend most of our time in AZ, UT, & CO, USA. ## Personal specs PhD in Physiology and novice software engineer (can write C, Python, SQL, css/js/html, flutter/dart, at a junior SWE level). Reasonable construction skills, rudimentary (dangerous unless watched) electrical skills. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lxonline](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/lxonline/32/25567_2.png) [@lxonline](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/lxonline)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 05:27 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/2 "2025-07-30T05:27:55Z")
> [@DrAlexHarrison](#): > > but there is no “Advanced” tab in the Victron Connect app (v6.19) that I’m currently using Update the system firmware and use solar wind priority is the simplest way forward for mobile installs. [Manual here] will reveal why you don’t have the advanced tab.([Solar & Wind Priority](https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/Solar_&_Wind_Priority/en/index-en.html)). Spoiler is the firmware… Plenty on you tube about it. > [@DrAlexHarrison](#): > > think I need my CCGX to have connectivity becauge GPT tells me so. Chat GPT is woe fully incorrect on alot of stuff for solar. It is still a baby. The CCGX need to have a WiFi dongle added or a wired ethernet connection to get it online and to use node red. If you want to use node red to automate connecting and disconnecting from shore, then you will have to run it on a different device. The other way is to use the generator start stop to ignore AC. Wire it into the aux and use the aux signal to drive the primary relay. There are a few threads here on the forum about it. That way you can interact with it from the gx as well and have it auto connected on load and/or soc. ---
**Author:** ![nickdb](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/nickdb/32/51440_2.png) [@nickdb](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/nickdb)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 05:56 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/3 "2025-07-30T05:56:18Z")
> [@DrAlexHarrison](#): > > I think I need my CCGX to have connectivity becauge GPT tells me so. Never, ever use an LLM for technical guidance for systems like these. It is flat out wrong more often than it’s over generalised responses are right. There is good reason Victron are developing their own AI tools. All the docs and information you need is available online in a victron manual, news/blog or on this forum. Just some legwork required. ---
**Author:** ![Fideri](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/fideri/32/2275_2.png) [@Fideri](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/Fideri)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 06:14 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/4 "2025-07-30T06:14:45Z")
Question @lxonline Can’t the OP just use the genny assistant with the general flag assistant in the quattro directly instead of wiring the CCGX to the quattro aux, which is a possibility too? Once Node Red is sorted, that also can be used instead. ---
**Author:** ![lxonline](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/lxonline/32/25567_2.png) [@lxonline](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/lxonline)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 06:15 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/5 "2025-07-30T06:15:29Z")
Absolutely. Nice contribution. [![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/original/2X/4/481d84c85356fad9d44fcbc63b969a1d523c2f89.jpeg "Different Ways to Ignore AC Input on a Victron MultiPlus 2 Inverter") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZsGHi8nKGc) > **[Ignore AC input using the Generator Assistant \[Victron Energy\]](https://www.victronenergy.com/live/assistants:ignore_ac_input_using_the_generator_assistant)** ---
**Author:** ![M\_Lange](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/m_lange/32/16_2.png) [@M\_Lange](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/M_Lange)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 06:33 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/6 "2025-07-30T06:33:04Z")
The generator start/stop via the GX device has the benefit that you easily can “start the generator” manually if needed. ---
**Author:** ![Fideri](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/fideri/32/2275_2.png) [@Fideri](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/Fideri)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 06:39 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/7 "2025-07-30T06:39:02Z")
Good point ---
**Author:** ![ejrossouw](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/ejrossouw/32/1610_2.png) [@ejrossouw](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/ejrossouw)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 07:17 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/8 "2025-07-30T07:17:07Z")
@DrAlexHarrison The CCGX “cannot” run venus os large [Venus OS Large image: Signal K and Node-RED [Victron Energy]](https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:large) so maybe worth exploring another GX device first before investing in a wi-fi dongle. Also, it is now officially discontinued and currently stuck on v3.55 firmware due it’s processing limitations. ---
**Author:** ![DrAlexHarrison](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/dralexharrison/32/31531_2.png) [@DrAlexHarrison](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/DrAlexHarrison)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 07:51 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/9 "2025-07-30T07:51:02Z")
All responses acknowledged. ## Remaining Direct Questions & BLUF 1. How do I get firmware updates on CCGX? The manual doesn’t say. My VRM hasn’t seen CCGX in 5 yrs. - Do CCGX have connectivity to access firmware updates without a dongle? - If so, how? - Can someone link me to the cheapest product that _reliably_ works with my CCGX to add the necessary connectivity? - If not, what info do you need to figure out reliable connectivity adaptor compatibility for my CCGX? (_let me know if each of these questions should be new posts, I have read the forum’s complete Guidelines page)_ 1. The [manual requirements](https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/Solar_&_Wind_Priority/en/details---requirements.html) don’t say how to know if my Quattro and CCGX (and other things??) can do Solar Priority. I have no idea how to check for microprocessor 26/27 in my Quattro or if it’s even relevant. What do I need to check here? 2. Is a firmware update **all** that I’ll need to do, to be able to follow the rest of the manual? Please assume I follow instructions well, and have no issue being comprehensive. I’d prefer not to get into the project and have my system dysfunctional while looking for answers. I rely on it for work. 3. I read the manual top to bottom before posting originally. 4. I did not use AI to generate any part of my original post. I am a human. Just an autistic one. ## My ideal scenario is (plz ignore if not helpful): I’d love to just drop $50, wait for amazon delivery, plug some USB thing in, then tap some app buttons, and have the Solar Priority working because firmware is now updated, etc etc. If that’s an option, can someone link me to something that lays that out stepwise, or write it out for me? **I’m happy for any direct answers to the questions at the top and I appreciate everyone’s time, and I apologize profusely for taking so many words to say all this.** - PS. Are the folks labeled “Victron Expert” adjacent their usernames employees of Victron, or just trusted online community members? In either case, I trust you! - PPS. Would it be helpful if I dropped in the 5-10 different URLs to the various dongle/connector things that seem like they might work but which I currently have low certainty on? (I will probably get this [VE.Bus Smart Dongle (Bluetooth)](https://www.amazon.com/Victron-VE-Bus-Dongle-Multiplus-Inverter/dp/B07FCV43LQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UA1S5NA1IE9I&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RrTv4HzDs22B2kfeYTEU-wq8wKRxeQuUs2kmAUM69fRxZENzTn3DnHARfcPsHGwFy6z2g07gco9kFOuqjHr3DIdPVSt739g6zOZZ_K2cuPk0TclyiHSiD7I56c2if0mbuVjgdiw8DwNvHyxdz7G0krHoc_aANxhk-FLMLkT4nUjQaTA1eD8HaLAC8m6N6YLO6OFwtkY3TpF_zXsNpMJAa05RbF0Gz64IJCEUt6Kn23M.LnR-4PVarKgtB0BKZWcVhXqoKD4uhvKOUQq1innf4lI&dib_tag=se&keywords=victron+ve.bus+smart+dongle&qid=1753860503&sprefix=Victron+VE.Bus+smart+d%252Caps%252C156&sr=8-1) if it’s what it takes to use the “Charge to 100%” feature in the Victron Connect app.) ## Other Commentary (definitely ignore if you don’t care!) > [@nickdb](#): > > All the docs and information you need is available online in a victron manual, news/blog or on this forum. Just some legwork required. If I have erred, it is not a problem of laziness or apathy. I have spent \>4 hours online reading this forum and others, on YouTube, reading the manual and every link in it, including watching the official video, investigating my system, and updating all my system’s firmware that I could, in my Victron Connect app. It is a problem of lacking information, understanding, or context, which I came to this forum to get clarity on. **I so appreciate direct answers to questions above. I’m not shy of legwork. And I’m certainly not dumb enough to wire something up using “GPT-spec” and call it good.** 😉 > [@nickdb](#): > > Never, ever use an LLM for technical guidance for systems like these. **Can we give a guy (me) benefit of the doubt here?** That was my original intention of sharing this: > [@DrAlexHarrison](#): > > PhD in Physiology and novice software engineer (can write C, Python, SQL, css/js/html, flutter/dart, at a junior SWE level) ^^^ Thus, I am aware of the ubiquitous niche shortcomings of LLMs & text-genAI. I hope any reasonable person would assume it can be deadly if followed blindly for electrical advice. 😂 > [@lxonline](#): > > [Manual here] will reveal why you don’t have the advanced tab. Spoiler is the firmware… Plenty on you tube about it. > > > [@DrAlexHarrison](#): > > > > think I need my CCGX to have connectivity becauge GPT tells me so. > > Chat GPT is woe fully incorrect on alot of stuff for solar. It is still a baby. > > The CCGX need to have a WiFi dongle added or a wired ethernet connection to get it online and to use node red. I said that bit ^^^ about needing connectivity because GPT said connectivity was needed to get firmware… which seems pretty straightforward to me. What am I missing? I would love a response that is more helpful than critical of my current approach. Apologies if it was an overshare for an initial post. Ironically, GPT has been accurate, more helpful, and more efficient than this forum which has actually seemed ever-so-slightly insulting (or at least misunderstanding) of the work that I’ve done so far and the care I took to share necessary info to me so that my issue could be diagnosed. Suffice it to say, I now feel misunderstood! But I understand that guarding the forum against inundation from spam and genAI drivel is important (and daunting), and I appreciate everyone is doing their best amidst what is probably an onslaught of AI-generated content. ## Errors Galore: I think I’ve run up against 5 or 6 warnings for reasons I can’t post. Holy cow this is tightly run ship. Here’s the most recent. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/original/3X/4/3/437ecd1be4a62de59f5f0083f4b8eeda04501831.png) (I have since removed what I thought were some helpful links for understanding the content I’ve consumed in an effort to self-educate on this topic. lol) ---
**Author:** ![DrAlexHarrison](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/dralexharrison/32/31531_2.png) [@DrAlexHarrison](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/DrAlexHarrison)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 07:53 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/10 "2025-07-30T07:53:03Z")
@ejrossouw, Helpful, thank you! If I downgrade my goals to exclusively “Just get Solar Priority running as simply and standard as possible” would some dongle to get firmware be the ‘answer?’ Simplicity appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![ejrossouw](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/ejrossouw/32/1610_2.png) [@ejrossouw](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/ejrossouw)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 08:03 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/11 "2025-07-30T08:03:51Z")
The MK3 dongle would be the answer and you can also use it with VictronConnect to directly configure Quattro from a laptop or your mobile device. As the updated firmware is “embedded” in the application, it is ideal for such off-grid scenarios. ---
**Author:** ![DrAlexHarrison](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/dralexharrison/32/31531_2.png) [@DrAlexHarrison](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/DrAlexHarrison)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 10:06 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/12 "2025-07-30T10:06:34Z")
Okay, that seems simple enough. I’ll plan to get the [MK3-USBC](https://www.amazon.com/Interface-MK3-USB-C-VE-Bus-to-USB-C/dp/B0BNBVKSTH/ref=sw_img_d_sspa_dk_huc_pt_expsub_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0BNBVKSTH&pd_rd_w=I8n4h&content-id=amzn1.sym.259f9014-3cbf-45ac-a291-7dfcbaa23450&pf_rd_p=259f9014-3cbf-45ac-a291-7dfcbaa23450&pf_rd_r=9C5X8AC97M4HF0WFENTT&pd_rd_wg=h3XmY&pd_rd_r=7b30b11e-6aef-4f50-90fb-aa6e7eff4f5c&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9odWNfbXJhaQ==) and the [RJ45 UTP Cable](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0VOK5D/ref=ewc_pr_img_3?smid=A2VHGGOHXF24LJ&th=1). If I plug that into my Quattro per below image, does that connection allow me to update firmware on just the Quattro, or does it allow updates to the CCGX, too? ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/original/3X/a/4/a493fc656491eee481962229534340dc1addb03d.jpeg) I think the firmware update on the CCGX is a primary blocker to using Solar Priority. Current CCGX firmware version is 1.64… a long way short of current 3.55! Quattro probably hasn’t ever been updated since 2019 either because I’ve never plugged anything into it. All other firmware is updated as far as Victron Connect will take it. Thank you again! ---
**Author:** ![lxonline](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/lxonline/32/25567_2.png) [@lxonline](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/lxonline)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 13:12 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/13 "2025-07-30T13:12:49Z")
> [@DrAlexHarrison](#): > > How do I get firmware updates on CCGX? The manual doesn’t say. How to [offline update here](https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/CCGX/en/firmware-updates.html#UUID-d6964459-1929-cc69-4e2d-12ab0264351f). The inverter can ve done with an mk3 and victron connect. > [@DrAlexHarrison](#): > > but there is no “Advanced” tab in the Victron Connect app Which i assumed you already had since you mention here you can’t see the advanced tab which you can oky see with the adaptors and the software. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/original/1X/21a9a7b5db7c6339715f993568736a7053199995.png) [@system](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 13:46 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/14 "2025-07-30T13:46:44Z")
Unlisted on 30 July 2025 13:46 UTC ---
**Author:** ![DrAlexHarrison](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/dralexharrison/32/31531_2.png) [@DrAlexHarrison](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/DrAlexHarrison)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 13:48 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/15 "2025-07-30T13:48:05Z")
Thank you!! > [@lxonline](#): > > How to offline update here. [link removed to allow quoting] Very much appreciated. I’ll do that today. Is that CCGX firmware update all that will be needed to run Solar Priority on my system, or is the Quattro firmware update necessary too? Is there a way to know for sure if my Quattro is compatible? I can’t locate a serial number on it anywhere. Sorry for the explicit re-inquiries here! ---
**Author:** ![lxonline](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/lxonline/32/25567_2.png) [@lxonline](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/lxonline)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 14:12 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/16 "2025-07-30T14:12:33Z")
> [@DrAlexHarrison](#): > > Quattro firmware update This is necessary. There is a _minimum_ firmware requirement. The numbers are specific and mentioned in the solar wind manual. You can check what your is on. Generally though you would be treating it as a new install and firmware uodates al round would minimise troubleshooting. The structure of your posts is triggering the spam bot big time (now it has its eye on you 😉). Maybe aim for a little less headings etc. ---
**Author:** ![DrAlexHarrison](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/victron/user_avatar/community.victronenergy.com/dralexharrison/32/31531_2.png) [@DrAlexHarrison](https://community.victronenergy.com/u/DrAlexHarrison)\ **Post date:** [30 July 2025 14:48 UTC](https://community.victronenergy.com/t/how-do-i-make-use-of-solar-priority-via-offline-ccgx/41311/17 "2025-07-30T14:48:03Z")
Roger that. I _think_ I may have all the info needed to do this now, and I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. ---
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